Originally posted by twhiteheadyou are sure?
It should only be impossible if you assume that the religion is false. It clearly doesn't make sense to do an experiment to determine the validity of a claim you already hold to be false.
However I am sure that many claims made by theists can be examined using science.
that's the problem, you see.
you can examine anything using science.
but you cannot prove the truth of what religions claim as fact because you have to accept the basis of theism as a matter of faith.
Faith is unverifiable opinion.
You misuse the word "validity" because even a false premise can support a valid conclusion logically -- valid is not the same as true.
You do not have to assume religion is false -- merely recognize we do not know and cannot know how to establish the truth of most religions' underlying faith-based concepts, such as the divinity of Jesus, or whether there is an afterlife, heaven, or hell.
You have to assume the truth of such things as that the Bible contains the irrefutable actual words of an anthropomorphic god who speaks personally to individual human beings. You cannot establish that premise as true empirically or through scientific methods -- so it is an opinion, only, a faith-based presumption.
Originally posted by FabianFnasok, in English I'd like to ask you how may alpine ski racing victories has Sweden scored over Norway in the last 10 years? I don't follow the sport, so I really don't know. But a friend advised me this question is one way to really annoy a Swede. 😛
"ingenting annat en än grön sörja" Hehe, watch you Swedish, dear one" 😀
And who do you refer by "ni"? Me and god? Hehe, yes, he would like that! 😀
Never mind. You learnt how to use your shift key on your keyboard, that's a progress. Keep on with it.
You show you have hmour, I like that!
He also told me the best way to annoy a Norwegian is to mistake him for a Swede.
Who knows why?
Originally posted by black beetledinosaurs were not reptiles. crocs are reptiles.
Ah Fabian, there was no need to host the dinos in the Ark; the dinos were all superb swimmers, like their cousins the crocodiles. And they loved the fish, so they had plenty o food😵
do you know which creature living today has DNA most closely similar to that of a T Rex?
I was in Mexico in January and encountered some crocodiles in a lagoon behind the beach. I took one of the best photos I've ever taken of one of them as he heaved himself up out of the water. Knowing he might actually be able to outrun me over a short distance, I made my goodbyes to him and returned quickly to the beach.
Just examine the way reptile skeletons differ from dinosaur skeletons and you see that based just on how the legs and "arms" work, they are not even cousins, just fellow vertebrates.
Originally posted by black beetleSo in your opinion there was dinosaurs at the time of Noah? (Crocks are not dinos, you know.) Okay, that's in your religious beliefs, I'm fine with that.
Dinos and crocs have the same common ancestor, and you know this fact thanks to the theory of the evolution. But I want not to dig this matter further because I don't have time to conduct a deep research. The most important is just to alert you that the dinos were swimmin fine and that therefore Noah was not at all obliged to host them in his Ark. Not at all.
I hope you comprehend.-
Do you have scientific proofs of this? If you say yes here, as KellyJay did, then you have to present these proofs, as KellyJay promised, and further actually hold the promise, as KellyJay didn't do. He's guessing, withou any facts backing him up, are you doing the same?
Originally posted by FabianFnasThese are not my beliefs but my scientific finds and evidence.
So in your opinion there was dinosaurs at the time of Noah? (Crocks are not dinos, you know.) Okay, that's in your religious beliefs, I'm fine with that.
Do you have scientific proofs of this? If you say yes here, as KellyJay did, then you have to present these proofs, as KellyJay promised, and further actually hold the promise, as KellyJay didn't do. He's guessing, withou any facts backing him up, are you doing the same?
Kelly Jay will bring the proofs.
Originally posted by black beetleHe will never do that, he doesn't have any. He is not much of the scientific type.
These are not my beliefs but my scientific finds and evidence.
Kelly Jay will bring the proofs.
And nor have you any scientific proofs. Otherwise, please present them!
here is another question: are crocs warm blooded? Were dinosaurs warm blooded?
these questions can be answered scientifically.
why are there no land-based animals the size of the largest known dinosaurs? Why do biologists say that even if mankind permitted them to live and failed to kill them off into extinction, which may be why there are no more mammoths or mastodons, the ecosystem that has existed on Earth before even the time of Noah could not now and could not in Noah's time supported land-based creatures so large?
Look up supersaurus and look at the pic of that thigh bone compared to a man. The first dinosaurs that the characters in the movie Jurassic park see were 60 feet tall.
Do you know why that even if we had the technology invented for that story, no such creature could live? It has to do with the amount of oxygen in the air we breathe.
In the age of the dinosaurs, there was a higher percentage of oxygen. Scientists have calculated how much oxygen demand is created by a given size of creature on land to sustain life. There isn't enough oxygen for dinosaurs, as they were configured based on their remains, ever to have lived alongside humans.
come on in to the Smithsonian here in Wash DC and check it out.
Originally posted by FabianFnasIf you bring me the Ark, I will show you the dinosaur foot prints. If you do not have the Ark at your disposal then how do you know that there were no dinosaurs on it?
He will never do that, he doesn't have any. He is not much of the scientific type.
And nor have you any scientific proofs. Otherwise, please present them!
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Originally posted by twhiteheadI give you a clue:
If you bring me the Ark, I will show you the dinosaur foot prints. If you do not have the Ark at your disposal then how do you know that there were no dinosaurs on it?
When did dinos die out?
When did hominids came about?
We are intelligent people, aren't we? Even my nephew knows that, and he's eight years of age.
Originally posted by twhiteheadIn the age of the dinosaurs, there was a higher percentage of oxygen.
If you bring me the Ark, I will show you the dinosaur foot prints. If you do not have the Ark at your disposal then how do you know that there were no dinosaurs on it?
Scientists have calculated how much oxygen demand is created by a given size of creature on land to sustain life.
There wasn't enough oxygen for dinosaurs, based on these calculations related to the body mass extrapolated from fossil remains. The dinosaurs could not have lived alongside Noah or any human due to the atmospheric percentage of oxygen in both respective ages.
You see, some things can be scientifically established -- even as a middle school student in the 1950s I was taught enough physics by my scientist father to allow me to calculate why a tarantula the size of the giant spider depicted in the classic old Sci Fi flick "Tarantula" could never actually support its own weight. Helped a lot in dealing with arachnophobia as a child.
Now, tell me whether a 50-ft woman could ever exist and if not, why not?
Originally posted by ScriabinIt's the exact other way around. In my mind, it's the exact other way
ok, in English I'd like to ask you how may alpine ski racing victories has Sweden scored over Norway in the last 10 years? I don't follow the sport, so I really don't know. But a friend advised me this question is one way to really annoy a Swede. 😛
He also told me the best way to annoy a Norwegian is to mistake him for a Swede.
around. No, it really is the exact other way around. Depending on the
decade you're in, of course. No, really, Swedes are great, Norwegians are
dumb. This is a well known fact. I can't believe an educated man such as
yourself has failed to notice this.
Norwegian on McDonalds, says it all really:
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Originally posted by JigtieFor the record:
It's the exact other way around. In my mind, it's the exact other way around. No, it really is the exact other way around. Depending on the decade you're in, of course. No, really, Swedes are great, Norwegians are dumb. This is a well known fact. I can't believe an educated man such as yourself has failed to notice this.
Sweden and Norway are best friends. Swedes and Norweigans are best friends. But we are joking about eachother, noone are really hurt about this.
The video shows som 'stupid' Norveigans, there are plenty of these videos, as videos about studing Sweeds too. It's the part of the game. Not to mention that there are lots of videos about 'stupid' Polish, Irish, Turks, Argentinians, and Amreicans too. For short: There are 'stupid' people everywhere.
But Norway and Sweden are best friends, thank you for sharing.
Originally posted by FabianFnasI agree with you fully, I was just having fun 🙂
I give you a clue:
When did dinos die out?
When did hominids came about?
We are intelligent people, aren't we? Even my nephew knows that, and he's eight years of age.
However what your nephew 'knows' proves nothing whatsoever. I can promise you that if his parents were creationists he would 'know' something different. Most eight year olds know primarily what their parents want them to know regardless of its truth value.