1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    03 Jan '15 23:22
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Intuision. 😏
    Halfway between impression and intuition?

    The smug face and school-boy spelling is really rather comical. Bravo!
  2. Standard memberRJHinds
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    04 Jan '15 03:23
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Halfway between impression and intuition?

    The smug face and school-boy spelling is really rather comical. Bravo!
    You could figure it out if you were not such a numbnuts. 😏
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    05 Jan '15 09:45
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    i find this 'if you are not there to see it, then how do we know what happened' fascinating (and slightly odd).
    Try asking him if the First World War really took place and whether he considers it a matter of faith.
  4. Standard memberKellyJay
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    05 Jan '15 13:34
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    i find this 'if you are not there to see it, then how do we know what happened' fascinating (and slightly odd).

    id be interested to know where you stand on forensic evidence used in a court of law. if there are no eye witnesses to a crime do you believe forensic evidence should or shouldnt be used?
    Well good question, forensic evidence is questioned all the time, if it lines
    up with all the other data points people accept it. If it does not they reject
    it, and either way no matter what side is presenting the evidence that is
    the way it is. With those who believe in evolutionary evidence they just
    accept that which proves their point, unlike a case in law questioning the
    evidence doesn't seem allowed by some.
  5. Standard memberKellyJay
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    05 Jan '15 13:38
    Originally posted by Agerg
    How confident are you that the parents that brought you up are actually your real biological parent. You're just guessing they are right? I mean, you weren't taking notes when you 0 years of age and so how can you possibly know who your real parents are given you cannot even recall the exact point you popped out of your real mother's vagina, let alone the actu ...[text shortened]... iew that the earth was created at the same time as a tree of magical fruits, and talking snakes.
    Confident, I'm sure they would have dumped me back where they found
    me the way I acted more than once. 🙂

    I believe we are all creatures of faith, walking outside on the grass is a
    matter of faith. What brought me to that example was falling into a sink
    hole while on Adak Alaska when I thought I was on solid ground.

    I suppose belittling me makes your case stronger in your eyes?
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    05 Jan '15 20:19
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Confident, I'm sure they would have dumped me back where they found
    me the way I acted more than once. 🙂

    I believe we are all creatures of faith, walking outside on the grass is a
    matter of faith. What brought me to that example was falling into a sink
    hole while on Adak Alaska when I thought I was on solid ground.

    I suppose belittling me makes your case stronger in your eyes?
    It might be an american thing in that they don't really get the notion of parady, but that said, I'm not actually belittling you at all (belittling your argument perhaps, but not you per-se)> I am simply taking your reasoning where it applies to such matters as the age of the earth and showing how silly it sounds when it is applied to a different branch of enquiry (in this case:- who are your actual biological parents)

    You reason that the science (which we depend on on a daily basis) which answers that question isn't really reliable simply because we didn't happen to be there physically when the earth was created. But then feel insulted if one should adopt the same reasoning when it comes to matters *you* regard as obvious.
  7. Standard memberKellyJay
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    05 Jan '15 21:01
    Originally posted by Agerg
    It might be an american thing in that they don't really get the notion of parady, but that said, I'm not actually belittling you at all (belittling your argument perhaps, but not you per-se)> I am simply taking your reasoning where it applies to such matters as the age of the earth and showing how silly it sounds when it is applied to a different branch of enq ...[text shortened]... nsulted if one should adopt the same reasoning when it comes to matters *you* regard as obvious.
    The creation or the beginning of all things started how? If you do not know,
    you do not know! That is the bottom line and I'm sorry to say you claiming
    knowledge you really don't have does not mean I'm missing anything. It
    only means that I acknowledge what we see may not be able to show us the
    true age of the universe. As I pointed out several times seeing a rate does
    not really show us time, it only shows us the rate! Seeing a car speed down
    the highway at 80mph does not mean it was 160 miles back two hours ago.

    If the universe started suddenly as it is today exactly how would you be
    able to use the position of a star to judge the age of the universe? The
    star and the light hitting the earth would both be the same age no matter
    how many million light years away the star was from the earth. If you don't
    know how it began you don't know what to really look at to see the age!
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    05 Jan '15 21:52
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Confident, I'm sure they would have dumped me back where they found
    me the way I acted more than once. 🙂

    I believe we are all creatures of faith, walking outside on the grass is a
    matter of faith. What brought me to that example was falling into a sink
    hole while on Adak Alaska when I thought I was on solid ground.

    I suppose belittling me makes your case stronger in your eyes?
    Yes, belittling the other person may not be a good argument, but it is fun. 😏
  9. Standard memberRJHinds
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    05 Jan '15 21:59
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    The creation or the beginning of all things started how? If you do not know,
    you do not know! That is the bottom line and I'm sorry to say you claiming
    knowledge you really don't have does not mean I'm missing anything. It
    only means that I acknowledge what we see may not be able to show us the
    true age of the universe. As I pointed out several times se ...[text shortened]... the earth. If you don't
    know how it began you don't know what to really look at to see the age!
    I believe you get it, but I doubt if these numbnuts on here ever will. 😏
  10. Standard memberKellyJay
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    05 Jan '15 23:46
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Yes, belittling the other person may not be a good argument, but it is fun. 😏
    It is fun but I cannot think of a time it is helpful.
  11. Standard memberRJHinds
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    07 Jan '15 05:41
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    It is fun but I cannot think of a time it is helpful.
    Yes, you are correct. I just have not conquered my sinful nature.
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