1. London
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    13 Dec '05 11:57
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Good guess, I think. See if this makes any sense--

    "Buddhists understand life as samsara, meaning perpetual wandering, and describe the transition like a billiard ball hitting another billiard ball. While nothing physical transfers, the speed and direction of the second ball relate directly to the first. So the term most often used is rebirth, rath ...[text shortened]... y, or dependant origination, where this arises because of circumstances which happened before."
    So I've got my own soul but my life starts off on a particular direction because some random chap before me ended his life in some other direction?
  2. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    13 Dec '05 11:58
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    So I've got my own soul but my life starts off on a particular direction because some random chap before me ended his life in some other direction?
    No, you don't have a soul 🙂
  3. Standard memberHalitose
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    13 Dec '05 12:05
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    No, you don't have a soul 🙂
    That sucks.
  4. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    13 Dec '05 12:051 edit
    Originally posted by Halitose
    That sucks.
    Why?
  5. Standard memberHalitose
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    13 Dec '05 13:42
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Why?
    No eternal existence. :'(
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    13 Dec '05 15:08
    Originally posted by Halitose
    No eternal existence. :'(
    There IS eternal existence in buddhism. If you kill your ego the new you will live forever!😀🙂😲
  7. Not Kansas
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    13 Dec '05 15:46
    Getting back to "knowledge" vs"knowledge".
    If an ancient text was discovered that claimed to contain truth and a school of men interpreted the text to reach a certain understanding and further declared that their interpretation was the correct one, they could claim that any different interpretion was in error because it disagreed with their interpretation, which they have declared to be the correct interpretation.
    Sounds dodgy.
  8. Unknown Territories
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    13 Dec '05 15:47
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    --which brings about an end to suffering. The Four Noble Truths speak of suffering; the Eight-Fold Path speaks of ending suffering.

    (Question for you--I'm told that Buddhists prefer to talk about rebirth rather than reincarnation. Why?)

    Edit for Freaky:

    "The eightfold path is Right Understanding, Right Intent, Right Speech, Right Action, Ri ...[text shortened]... dfulness, and Right Concentration." (http://www.acay.com.au/~silkroad/buddha/p_path_frames.htm)
    Right understanding, et al.
    Anyone eliminated from getting on that ride?
  9. Unknown Territories
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    13 Dec '05 15:48
    Originally posted by KneverKnight
    Getting back to "knowledge" vs"knowledge".
    If an ancient text was discovered that claimed to contain truth and a school of men interpreted the text to reach a certain understanding and further declared that their interpretation was the correct one, they could claim that any different interpretion was in error because it disagreed with their interpretation, which they have declared to be the correct interpretation.
    Sounds dodgy.
    Sounds like you came across a copy of the Book of Mormon?
  10. Standard memberHalitose
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    13 Dec '05 15:51
    Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboard
    There IS eternal existence in buddhism. If you kill your ego the new you will live forever!😀🙂😲
    I liked the old me better. 😵
  11. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    13 Dec '05 15:53
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Right understanding, et al.
    Anyone eliminated from getting on that ride?
    Nobody's excluded.
  12. Unknown Territories
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    13 Dec '05 15:54
    Originally posted by Halitose
    I liked the old me better. 😵
    You only get to be you once. That's the rules. Next time, you have to be you, and that only once. After that, if you haven't become you yet, you will only have a few more chances at becoming so.
    If, at the end of your you opportunities, if you have not become you, you are you forever, living in the regret that you never knew yourself.
    Good luck, now get going, you.
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    13 Dec '05 15:55
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Right understanding, et al.
    Anyone eliminated from getting on that ride?
    As far as I know, no one is prevented.
    On the other hand, your present beliefs may bar you.
  14. Unknown Territories
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    13 Dec '05 15:56
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Nobody's excluded.
    If no one is excluded, how is the final conclusion decided, i.e., what is the factor which determines a person has arrived at the intended (?) state?
  15. Not Kansas
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    13 Dec '05 15:56
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Sounds like you came across a copy of the Book of Mormon?
    I didn't have that in mind.
    🙂
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