Lake of Fire

Revelation 20:
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Everything will set with nothing left pending or undone of this world of sin before the Eternal Kingdome is introduced. The old and new will not be near one another, those that enter into God's Kingdom will, those that are not going to will not.

It's funny how KellyJay seemingly never "teaches" about following Jesus by obeying His commandments or about demonstrating one's Christian faith is alive and living by doing good works. Instead, there is this incessant return by KellyJay to his belief that people who have different beliefs from him will be subjected to inexplicably grotesque and cruel violence that will never end, and if his God figure were fair, he'd subject ALL the human beings He's created to such depraved and demented vengeance.

The footnote in the Recovery Version on "the second death" reads -

In the first death, the soul and spirit of fallen men are separated from their body and perish in the section of suffering in Hades (Luke 16:22-24). In the second death, their soul and spirit, after being rejoined to their body in resurrection, are cast with their body into the lake of fire. This means that the unbelievers' whole being - spirit, soul, and body - will perish in eternal torment in the lake of fire.

The perishing unbeliever will be judged according to the scrolls, which are a record of their works (vs. 12-13), but they will be cast into the lake of fire according to the book of life. This indicates that they are condemned by the Lord because of their evil deeds but perish because of their unbelief, which issues in their not having their names written in the book of life. Not believing in the Lord Jesus is the unique sin that causes people to perish (John 16:9).

I would like to include a verse that may not tell us everything. But it tells us a very critical and important thing.

But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of the faith which we proclaim.

That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

For with the heart there is believing unto righteousness, and with the mouth there is confession unto salvation.

For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes on Him shall not be put to shame."

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all and rich to all who call upon Him;

For "whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:8-13)

@fmf said
It's funny how KellyJay seemingly never "teaches" about following Jesus by obeying His commandments or about demonstrating one's Christian faith is alive and living by doing good works. Instead, there is this incessant return by KellyJay to his belief that people who have different beliefs from him will be subjected to inexplicably grotesque and cruel violence that will never end ...[text shortened]... e were fair, he'd subject ALL the human beings He's created to such depraved and demented vengeance.

@fmf said
It's funny how KellyJay seemingly never "teaches" about following Jesus by obeying His commandments or about demonstrating one's Christian faith is alive and living by doing good works. Instead, there is this incessant return by KellyJay to his belief that people who have different beliefs from him will be subjected to inexplicably grotesque and cruel violence that will never end ...[text shortened]... e were fair, he'd subject ALL the human beings He's created to such depraved and demented vengeance.

@philokalia said
I think KJ talks about it a lot because it is a common theme here.

You are judging him unfairly.

@philokalia said
I think KJ talks about it a lot because it is a common theme here.

You are judging him unfairly.

@kellyjay said
He only sees things the way he wants to see them, not the way things are.

@kellyjay said
He only sees things the way he wants to see them, not the way things are.

@kellyjay said
Revelation 20:
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what t ...[text shortened]... be near one another, those that enter into God's Kingdom will, those that are not going to will not.

@KellyJay

Everything will set with nothing left pending or undone of this world of sin before the Eternal Kingdom [edited] is introduced.

Therefore I say to you that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and shall be given to a nation producing its fruit. (Matt. 21:43)

For in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be richly and bountifully supplied to you." (Second Peter 1:11)

The old and new will not be near one another, those that enter into God's Kingdom will, those that are not going to will not.

"But according to His promise we are expecting new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells." ( 2 Pet. 3:13)

" And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and the sea is no more.

And I the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And I head a loud voice out of the throne, saying, Behold the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they will be his peoples, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. "( Rev. 21:1-3)

"And He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death will be no more, nor will there be sorrow or crying or pain anymore; the former things have passed away." (v.4)

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The book of revelation positively wreaks of metaphor.

Who are you sir to cherry pick what to take literally?

@divegeester

Divegeester, if you and I are standing on the 20th floor of a tall building and I decide to jump out of the window, I will suffer the result of the law of gravity. Unless something else happens the law of gravity will pull me down to crash on the ground below.

Now if you warn me that that is going to be the result if I would be so foolish to jump to my death, does this argument make sense?

" Divegeester, why are you threatening me JUST because I have a disagreement with you about this. You are saying bad things will happen to people who do not believe as YOU believe."

Isn't that a TWISTING of what is happening?

1.) Will I suffer death hitting the ground because of the law of gravity?

2.) Or will I suffer death hitting the ground because I don't believe everything you believe?