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Originally posted by robbie carrobiesimple questions robbie.
I not only understood it, I pointed out how irrelevant it was to the actual question that was being asked of you.
were women designed to have cesarean sections?
were women designed to wear high heels?
were men designed to spin bowl?
were men designed to drink milk?
were men designed to smoke tobacco?
are these things unnatural things to do to the human body?
Originally posted by Proper Knobi have been to lewes too, and it is not great fun , u end up stuck in an eternal queue for the train home (i climbed a fence a managed to sneak onto the platform). and if you are lucky you will only have minor burns
Is terming someone a hater because they state that others state that others use hate speech not hate speech?
On a side note, I've been to Lewes for Bonfire night. Great fun.
and as for how in hell they justify the whole pope / gypsy burning, pikey inbreds that they are, i will never know. (if you look up photos on the origional bonfire society there is great one of four sussex inbreds sitting infront of a sign saying 'NO FOREIGNERS'
if it ever went to a court they would not be able to justify it, i also hate that its the pope they burn, the only reason they get away with it is because catholic bashing is still acceptable in the uk.
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Originally posted by GSWILLI'm sure I've pointed this out to you before, but you often take sentences in posts out of context and then address them as if the context within which they were said doesn't exist. I don't know why you don't seem to understand that it makes it impossible for you to gain a true understanding of what is actually being conveyed to you. Or perhaps you do it precisely because you don't want to have to address what is actually being conveyed to you. If it's the latter, then it's blatantly dishonest for you to do so. If it's the former, then you still have no way to arrive at an honest assessment of what's being conveyed to you. Either way, it works against truth. You really need to address each line of thought as a whole.
sonship here writing:
C'mon jaywill, in none of those passages does Jesus explicitly state or even imply that He considered homosexuality a moral matter as you claim.
Mathew 10:15 - [b]"Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city."
Go back and not particularly highlighted above other sins in his listings.[/b]
I'm thinking we need to tackle these issues separately. So first I'm only going to address S&G. To start, I'd like to ask a question:
Do you acknowledge that one can reference the level of judgment of S&G as an example of the power of God without necessarily implying a judgement as to the morality of EACH of the POSSIBLE underlying reasons for that level of judgment?
Originally posted by stellspalfieExactly. Your getting it now.
can you clarify for me. is being a homosexual the same as practicing homosexuality? meaning if a homosexual man lives a celibate life is he okay with god?
I do understand that many humans may be born with tendencies that may be hard for them to live with or is unfair. It is sad.
But these tendencies or even possibly imperfections are not here because of God. It is because we all sin and inherited sinful tendencies.
God knows this and because of humans sinful actions, some more serious then others, he had laws and consquences for ones that commit them. This is not only to protect the masses but even to protect the guilty ones from harm to themselves.
He clearly said that what a person sows, this he will also reap.
And as a result of the actions of ones not listening to God on sexual matters, we now see the dangers of AIDS.
So how does one cope when they have those tendencies to be attracted to the same sex?
Should one just give in?
That all depends on their view of God and of his commands, not what other humans tell them is ok.
If one wants a relationship with God and wants to follow his wishes, even if one does not understand them, they would have to decide how to handle this command.
God promisses that after he brings humans and the planet back to perfection, that all of mans problems will be repaired both mentally and physically.
I have personally known a few JW's that clearly had the tendency to be a homosexual.
And yes it was a sad situation for them as everyone would love to have a relationship with another human.
But they knew God's view and the warnings that came with it. And they love their God and their brothers and sisters in the organization more then what satisfaction they may have temporarily by giving into it now.
They believe deeply that God will help them deal with it now and that they will one day be as God cerated all humans to be.
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Originally posted by galveston75thanks for the explanation. it got me wondering though, were would god stand on two homosexual men living together like a couple but without having any form of sexual contact?
Exactly. Your getting it now.
I do understand that many humans may be born with tendencies that may be hard for them to live with or is unfair. It is sad.
But these tendencies or even possibly imperfections are not here because of God. It is because we all sin and inherited sinful tendencies.
God knows this and because of humans sinful actions, so ...[text shortened]... will help them deal with it now and that they will one day be as God cerated all humans to be.