Lewes bonfire, and gays in the church
03 Feb '13 15:40Originally posted by divegeesterSo what??
...or a gay.
Really? You had to go there?
03 Feb '13 15:50Originally posted by e4chrisglorified school bullying and homophobia, wow, do you really think that is the reasons that the church in Scotland is against admitting those who want to engage in a practice that they deem both as opposed to nature and opposed to scripture. I always have to laugh when homosexuals describe those who oppose the practice as homophobic and wonder if they seem as keen to label others with similar mysterious mental ailments. Ironic considering that homosexuality was also considered a debilitating mental condition not that long ago. Why should anyone be expected to accept a morality and a practice that is contrary to nature and their religious beliefs? You have not said.
I'm getting more interested in Christianity, and giving it much much more credit then i used too. But homophobia in church really bugs me, i hate how in scotland the churches campaign against homosexuality. Its glorified school bullying, pathetic. I've read one of the bits in the bible that says homosexuality is wrong, and the bit two pages later where it t ...[text shortened]... and i never hear any christian complain about it. but picking on gay people seems to be fine.
03 Feb '13 15:51Originally posted by e4chrisReligion is a curious phenomenon where people can make the most ridiculous claims and get away with it. In general, the word 'supernatural' means 'I know I'm talking nonsense but I don't have to follow the rules because what I am saying doesn't follow the rules'.
Why with all this jesus loves you business is the church so keen to pick on gay people, even gay kids as with brian suiters sick referendum. Yet in Lewes every year they hold a bonfire where they through fire works at a man dressed as the pope... its a feature. it happens every year and i never hear any christian complain about it. but picking on gay people seems to be fine.
03 Feb '13 15:51Originally posted by Suzianneliberal? weak and watery more like.
I am quite liberal, as you say you are, and I have a problem with many mainstream Christian churches as well.
I am Episcopalian, and my church is more liberal than a lot of them I've been to. They have a lot more tolerance than most. My advice to you would be to seek out an Anglican church in your area. The Episcopalian Church in America is the Americ ...[text shortened]... priest near you. Describe your situation and ask for advice on a church to attend. Good luck!
03 Feb '13 15:53Originally posted by twhiteheadanother arm chair psychologist, do you really think that religious people are afraid of homosexuals, that that is the real reason that they are opposed to homosexuality? really?
Religion is a curious phenomenon where people can make the most ridiculous claims and get away with it. In general, the word 'supernatural' means 'I know I'm talking nonsense but I don't have to follow the rules because what I am saying doesn't follow the rules'.
Religious people generally use their religion to avoid having to substantiate claims.
They ...[text shortened]... ion we don't believe in interracial interaction', they can almost get away with it.
03 Feb '13 15:55Originally posted by robbie carrobieCould you dial it back a bit, Mr. Oh-So-Much-Holier-Than-Thou?
glorified school bullying and homophobia, wow, do you really think that is the reasons that the church in Scotland is against admitting those who want to engage in a practice that they deem both as opposed to nature and opposed to scripture. I always have to laugh when homosexuals describe those who oppose the practice as homophobic and wonder if th ...[text shortened]... ality and a practice that is contrary to nature and their religious beliefs? You have not said.
03 Feb '13 15:58Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo, I think it's much more akin to hatred and racism.
another arm chair psychologist, do you really think that religious people are afraid of homosexuals, that that is the real reason that they are opposed to homosexuality? really?
03 Feb '13 16:01Originally posted by twhiteheadNot anti-homosexual, got it.
Religion is a curious phenomenon where people can make the most ridiculous claims and get away with it. In general, the word 'supernatural' means 'I know I'm talking nonsense but I don't have to follow the rules because what I am saying doesn't follow the rules'.
Religious people generally use their religion to avoid having to substantiate claims.
They ...[text shortened]... ion we don't believe in interracial interaction', they can almost get away with it.
03 Feb '13 16:02Originally posted by SuzianneAs predicted, we can always rely on someone watering down the word of God. Get this straight, Jesus was a Jew who upheld the tenets of the mosaic law and instructed others to do likewise and we know what they would have meant for your friend. The fact of the matter is he has stated that those who do not wish homosexuals to be part of the church do so on the basis of homophobia and bullying which is a nonsense because they do so on the understanding that it is unnatural and contrary to the teaching of scripture, why didn't you tell him that instead of watering it down, lukewarm is what you are and you know what that means for you.
Could you dial it back a bit, Mr. Oh-So-Much-Holier-Than-Thou?
Answer me this. Would Jesus openly berate this man and send him packing?
I doubt it.
Just think about that.
03 Feb '13 16:042 editsOriginally posted by SuzianneLOL, hate, its now hateful to uphold the Biblical standards yup, why don't we water it down, accuse others of hatred because they are prepared to tell it like it is rather than watering the text down. Entirely typical and rather predictable.
Sorry? You said something?
Pardon me if I'm not all that terribly concerned about what you think.
Just how thin can you spread your hate?
03 Feb '13 17:05Originally posted by robbie carrobieWould YOU throw the first stone, Mr. Yes-I-AM-Holier-Than-Thou?
As predicted, we can always rely on someone watering down the word of God. Get this straight, Jesus was a Jew who upheld the tenets of the mosaic law and instructed others to do likewise and we know what they would have meant for your friend. The fact of the matter is he has stated that those who do not wish homosexuals to be part of the church do ...[text shortened]... hat instead of watering it down, lukewarm is what you are and you know what that means for you.
03 Feb '13 17:061 editOriginally posted by robbie carrobieSorry, I don't listen to "made-up" NWT "scripture".
LOL, hate, its now hateful to uphold the Biblical standards yup, why don't we water it down, accuse others of hatred because they are prepared to tell it like it is rather than watering the text down. Entirely typical and rather predictable.
(2 Timothy 4:3-5) For there will be a period of time when they [b]will not put up with the healthful teachi ...[text shortened]... n all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry.[/b]
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