Spirituality
11 Jun 09
14 Jun 09
Originally posted by FabianFnasI did hear a Lutheran say once something about dinosaurs and the ark -- I think either that they died out then because they didn't fit on the ark or that they were on the ark because the Bible doesn't say they weren't. Something phenomenally stupid addressed to a whole school of children during a presentation.
Actually, there are christian fundamentalists who deny (!) that the dinosaurs died out completley 65 million of years ago, that they (dinosaurs) even lived at the same time as humans, even in historic times (!), being onboard the ark of Noah (!).
They are bad represenatives of christians, but they are good representatives of fundamentalists.
14 Jun 09
Originally posted by pawnhandlerPentecostals, they are Lutherans right? But mainly, those who have that kind of ideas are fundamentals. They have their dogma, set and steady. Doesn't matter how many evidence you give them, they don't change their wierd views. They pretende that they don't have to change their views, because they know it all from the beginning, from Genisis. Blind and deaf for anything else.
I did hear a Lutheran say once something about dinosaurs and the ark -- I think either that they died out then because they didn't fit on the ark or that they were on the ark because the Bible doesn't say they weren't. Something phenomenally stupid addressed to a whole school of children during a presentation.
14 Jun 09
Originally posted by FabianFnasNo, Pentecostals aren't Lutherans. They're a different bunch. Lutherans come in a couple of different kinds -- liberal-ish (including women clergy) and conservative-ish (including "everyone is basically evil"😉
Pentecostals, they are Lutherans right? But mainly, those who have that kind of ideas are fundamentals. They have their dogma, set and steady. Doesn't matter how many evidence you give them, they don't change their wierd views. They pretende that they don't have to change their views, because they know it all from the beginning, from Genisis. Blind and deaf for anything else.
14 Jun 09
Originally posted by pawnhandlerSo, Pentecostals are catholics...?
No, Pentecostals aren't Lutherans. They're a different bunch. Lutherans come in a couple of different kinds -- liberal-ish (including women clergy) and conservative-ish (including "everyone is basically evil"😉
15 Jun 09
Originally posted by UllrAs usual, Christians solved that problem by splitting into groups, one says Earth is 6000 years old, the other says 4.5 billion. Problem solved, lol.
Well lets see, the discovery of dinosaur fossils millions of years old haven't put a dent in their willful ignorance so what difference would a few planets with intelligent life make?
15 Jun 09
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The Bible literalists seem to believe that Adam was created at the same time the Earth was created.
Just because the written Word says "this happened" and then "this happened" that does not necessarily mean they happened in the same time period. Adam was around to put a name to the animals and plants, but, that doesn't mean the Earth didn't exist for billions of years (possibly the blink of an eye in God's time) first.
Most evangelical Christians believe the Earth is 6,000 years old but they are guilty of one of the biggest things they warn other Christians about. And that is, drawing information from the Bible and forming it into doctrine, when the information isn't there to begin with. All the bible says about the timeline is that civilized man has existed about 6,000 years and science completely backs this up.
15 Jun 09
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Originally posted by sumydidIt shouldn't be hard for a christian to know what is right and what is wrong. Pray god for advice! Then let the ones who is wrong change their view, and all the christian can be united again!
The Bible literalists seem to believe that Adam was created at the same time the Earth was created.
Just because the written Word says "this happened" and then "this happened" that does not necessarily mean they happened in the same time period. Adam was around to put a name to the animals and plants, but, that doesn't mean the Earth didn't exist for bil s that civilized man has existed about 6,000 years and science completely backs this up.
Shouldn't be that hard, should it?
Christianity cannot be true if christians amongst themselves don't agree to eachother... The Truth cannot be in christianity!
15 Jun 09
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Originally posted by FabianFnasJust because different factions within Christianity contradict one another doesn't mean they all have it wrong. That argument is entirely illogical.
It shouldn't be hard for a christian to know what is right and what is wrong. Pray god for advice! Then let the ones who is wrong change their view, and all the christian can be united again!
Shouldn't be that hard, should it?
Christianity cannot be true if christians amongst themselves don't agree to eachother... The Truth cannot be in christianity!
You're correct that if 2 parties contradict one another, 1 must be wrong. But that doesn't mean both are incorrect.
You seem to believe that for one to be Christian they must altogether reject science; even take strong opposition to it. On the contrary just as a scientist who believes in the big bang theory can remain a scientist even if he believes that God caused the big bang.