Originally posted by Rajk999What exactly is an 'unforgivable sin'? Did Jesus die on the cross for specific sin, or ALL sin?
Actually, NO!! Those 70 were promised a guaranteed place in the Kingdom of God. Many others received such a guarantee in the time of Christ.
There is no such thing as once saved always saved in the Bible pal. OSAS is a man-made expression designed to draw the gullible to give money to the churches. If any of those 70 had committed a sin that is unforgiva ...[text shortened]... ce saved always saved. Its an unbiblical and a childish concept designed to fool stupid people.
Originally posted by chaney3You figure it out. Read this and tell me what you thing Jesus died for:
What exactly is an 'unforgivable sin'? Did Jesus die on the cross for specific sin, or ALL sin?
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
(Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV)
And the Bible has more of those passages.
Christ died to save mankind from inherited sin. That is for sin in the flesh. the sin of Adam caused the whole of mankind to fall, God sent his son to die to redeem mankind.
Christ died for ALL sin .. no way.. read what the passages say in the Bible instead of believing the idle gossip of fly by night churches.
Originally posted by chaney3Unforgivable sin .. here is what the Bible says:
What exactly is an 'unforgivable sin'? Did Jesus die on the cross for specific sin, or ALL sin?
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
1John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
There is such a thing as a sin that leads to death.
Originally posted by Rajk999You do realize that as humans, we are designed by God to sin until we die. No matter how hard we try.....we will fail, and ultimately fall short. You may claim that you are 'walking with Christ'....but, are you also claiming Rajk that you will never sin again?
You figure it out. Read this and tell me what you thing Jesus died for:
[i]2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it is impossible for those who were once en ...[text shortened]... hat the passages say in the Bible instead of believing the idle gossip of fly by night churches.
And if Jesus died for ALL sin, what makes your sin any different from anybody else's sin? I take issue with people claiming that 'only they' know the truth.
Originally posted by chaney3I challenged you recently to show me where the Bible said that "..we are designed by God to sin until we die. No matter how hard we try." .. the Bible says no such thing.
You do realize that as humans, we are designed by God to sin until we die. No matter how hard we try.....we will fail, and ultimately fall short. You may claim that you are 'walking with Christ'....but, are you also claiming Rajk that you will never sin again?
And if Jesus died for ALL sin, what makes your sin any different from anybody else's sin? I take issue with people claiming that 'only they' know the truth.
Yes we ultimately fall short. Lots of people walk with Christ and Christ does not expect perfection at all.
I never said I will never sin again and I never said I alone have truth.
Originally posted by Rajk999I don't care if it's not in the Bible. God created humans. When He created us, we did not just decide to sin, it is PART of our design. He created us this way.
I challenged you recently to show me where the Bible said that "..we are designed by God to sin until we die. No matter how hard we try." .. the Bible says no such thing.
Yes we ultimately fall short. Lots of people walk with Christ and Christ does not expect perfection at all.
I never said I will never sin again and I never said I alone have truth.
The Bible doesn't tell me where the local deli is either, but it doesn't mean that I starve because I cannot find the deli.
Originally posted by chaney3You sound like a teenager. I think you need to get back on facebook. This is a big-boy site. Come back in about 10 years.
I don't care if it's not in the Bible. God created humans. When He created us, we did not just decide to sin, it is PART of our design. He created us this way.
The Bible doesn't tell me where the local deli is either, but it doesn't mean that I starve because I cannot find the deli.