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Interesting - the Turing Test. thanks
Originally posted by sonship"Now, I agree for the most part. But think now in terms of the addition of another, say, 50 to 70 years.
[quote]
Computers do what we tell them, if they didn't they would be useless. Now
sometimes we design them to do tasks that make them interact with us to
the point where they could fool us into thinking they are not a computer
but a person, that is not them becoming more of a person it is only our
awareness getting fooled not the computers getting more ...[text shortened]... of a New Machine".
(None of which I read entirely, except some of Future Shock)[/b]
Originally posted by KellyJay
If you know what an mechanical calculator is it is just a very fast abacus, which will never spawn into a life no matter how fast you do your
calculations on it.
Originally posted by sonshipComputers don't evolve as some think when they look at life, we createIf you know what an mechanical calculator is it is just a very fast abacus, which will never spawn into a life no matter how fast you do your
calculations on it.
I was a computer programmer, so I understand.
Tell me something. Why do you think they came up with the phrase [b]Genetic Algorithm ?
If you ask me, I wo ...[text shortened]... e that acts like the processes of natural selection.
I think it is an aspiration, at least.[/b]
Originally posted by sonshipBoth computer programs and chip design can be evolved using artificial selection.If you know what an mechanical calculator is it is just a very fast abacus, which will never spawn into a life no matter how fast you do your
calculations on it.
I was a computer programmer, so I understand.
Tell me something. Why do you think they came up with the phrase [b]Genetic Algorithm ?
If you ask me, I wo ...[text shortened]... e that acts like the processes of natural selection.
I think it is an aspiration, at least.[/b]
Originally posted by googlefudgeYou seem to ignore the fact that it all begins with Intelligent Design. 😏
Both computer programs and chip design can be evolved using artificial selection.
The resulting programs/circuits can solve problems [that they were evolved to solve]
without the programmers who created the genetic algorithm and the virtual environment
in which it evolved having the slightest clue how they work.
This is something that could be ...[text shortened]... pic.
"Humans Need Not Apply" by CGP Grey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU&hd=1
Originally posted by googlefudge"evolved to solve" is another way of saying that they were programmed by
Both computer programs and chip design can be evolved using artificial selection.
The resulting programs/circuits can solve problems [that they were evolved to solve]
without the programmers who created the genetic algorithm and the virtual environment
in which it evolved having the slightest clue how they work.
This is something that could be ...[text shortened]... pic.
"Humans Need Not Apply" by CGP Grey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU&hd=1
Originally posted by KellyJayI believe the computer programmers called it artificial intellegence. Perhaps those that believe in the theory of evolution call it artificial selection. That is the first I have heard that term used. It must be an atheist thing.
"evolved to solve" is another way of saying that they were programmed by
us to do what it is they are doing. ID is at the heart of it all, even our AI is
the result of ID and the outcome at the root of it all will be our ID.
Originally posted by RJHindsI can code a "if","then", "else" into a program and it will do what I want
I believe the computer programmers called it artificial intellegence. Perhaps those that believe in the theory of evolution call it artificial selection. That is the first I have heard that term used. It must be an atheist thing.
Originally posted by KellyJayThe dictionary defines 'artificial selection' as another name for 'selective breeding' therefore, I don't know what he means and so maybe your right.
I can code a "if","then", "else" into a program and it will do what I want
as I coded it. You could call that AS since the program is doing the
selection I suppose too. It doesn't matter to me if the coder is removed
from the code and the code modifies itself to do a job, if it was our ID that
set that up to happen then it was our ID that set it up to happen.
Originally posted by KellyJay
"evolved to solve" is another way of saying that they were programmed by
us to do what it is they are doing. ID is at the heart of it all, even our AI is
the result of ID and the outcome at the root of it all will be our ID.
"evolved to solve" is another way of saying that they were programmed by
us to do what it is they are doing.
ID is at the heart of it all, even our AI is the result of ID and the outcome at the root
of it all will be our ID.
Originally posted by RJHindsYou have utterly no clue about what you are talking about.
I believe the computer programmers called it artificial intellegence. Perhaps those that believe in the theory of evolution call it artificial selection. That is the first I have heard that term used. It must be an atheist thing.
Originally posted by sonhouse
That may be so, since we already created a god in our image, so a machine would be next.
That may be so, since we already created a god in our image, so a machine would be next.
Originally posted by googlefudgeThe way it works is a programmer setups a test and a means to solve it,"evolved to solve" is another way of saying that they were programmed by
us to do what it is they are doing.
No, it really isn't.
The way this works [hidden] [in very simple terms] [/hidden] is that the programmer creates a test to see if a program solves
the desired problem.
Then a whole bunch of randomly generated bits of code ...[text shortened]... replicate something doesn't make the
original something artificial, or intelligently designed.