Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow can someone be made to have sex, against their will, ie - without their consent, without the use of force?
Force can take many forms not necessarily violence, it can take the form of economics just by way of example. They may be consenting against their will Noobster! it is possible to give consent against your will, is it not?
Remember the topic of this thread is marital rape.
Originally posted by Proper Knobtake someone who comes to the UK as an illegal immigrant, they are forced by economics to pay off the debt for fake documents, airflight etc etc , they are forced against their will to consent to prostitution otherwise they will be reported and deported and charged with a criminal offence.
How can someone be made to have sex, against their will, ie - without their consent, without the use of force?
Remember the topic of this thread is marital rape.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe framework we are discussing this within is 'marital rape'.
take someone who comes to the UK as an illegal immigrant, they are forced by economics to pay off the debt for fake documents, airflight etc etc , they are forced against their will to consent to prostitution otherwise they will be reported and deported and charged with a criminal offence.
-Removed-No I typed no words that stated marriage was an inducement to rape anyone and if I press you on the matter you will be unable to produce where I have. My argument concerned certain principles where they might have some bearing on whether a matter could be considered rape. I have not advocated forcing anyone to do anything under any circumstances.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWithin the context of the thread theme - marital rape. That's what I've been getting at. Apologies if you thought otherwise, I maybe should have made that clearer.
but we are discussing principles and ideas.
Can you think of any examples of what I've been asking now you understand the context?