Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut there's still this key question that you're dodging: if the husband forces his wife to submit to sexual intercourse against her will, what "consent" are you referring to?
I have explained my position and will not do so again and again and again. The matter is clear and settled in my mind, its good enough for me, now if you have quite finished slobbering and drooling, I have things I need to do.
FMF: "I can understand being neutral over politics but why are you maintaining a neutral stance over men raping their wives? It's a moral atrocity."
robbie carrobie: "I simply wish to remain absolutely detached personally from any controversy.
FMF: Do you also take "a morally and intellectually neutral position" about adults raping children?"
robbie carrobie: "I wish to remain neutral over any issue."
Originally posted by Proper Knobsorry i was thinking that by force you meant violence. I suspect that many prostitutes and those who work in the sex industry engage in sex against their will and would much rather be doing something else.
We're not talking about violence. We're talking about force.
You are still yet to explain how someone can be made to have sex, against their will, without the use of force.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm sure they would rather be doing something else, but they are still consenting. Sex workers are letting people have sex with them and performing sex acts for money. No force is involved.
sorry i was thinking that by force you meant violence. I suspect that many prostitutes and those who work in the sex industry engage in sex against their will and would much rather be doing something else.
There is no instance where a person who has been made to have sex against their will where force, in one form or another, hasn't been involved.
Originally posted by Proper KnobForce can take many forms not necessarily violence, it can take the form of economics just by way of example. They may be consenting against their will Noobster! it is possible to give consent against your will, is it not?
I'm sure they would rather be doing something else, but they are still consenting. Sex workers are letting people have sex with them and performing sex acts for money. No force is involved.
There is no instance where a person who has been made to have sex against their will where force, in one form or another, hasn't been involved.