Originally posted by Suzianne I can't really be bothered to give a flying rat's ass what anyone else believes about my right to do anything.
Again with the twisting. You asked about my belief that it is Jesus speaking in it. And now you conflate that with the idea that it is divinely inspired. The entire Bible is divinely inspired. What does this have to do with what anyone else ...[text shortened]... to do so?" Incredibly weak, man, as well as nonsensical. Non-sequitur. "It does not follow."
Why should anyone else share your belief that Revelation is divinely inspired when the only reason you have offered is that the person who wrote it claimed that what he'd written was divinely inspired? Surely your testimony about the content of Revelation is based on something more than just this kind of circular logic?
Originally posted by FMF Surely the "charge" being made here is yours?
"...the ability to lie, whether knowingly or unconsciously, and to get away with it; and the ability to use lies and choose and shape facts selectively, blocking out those that don’t fit an agenda or program."
Does this apply only to people you disagree with or does it apply to people who have similar beliefs to you as well?
Ahhhh, the core of the matter, finally. Do you think I've insulted you? Why would you think that? Do you see yourself in this quote? Sounds like a personal problem. I'm not your psychoanalyst.
I mean, it could be that everyone has just nothing better to do than sit around and talk about you all day, but as much as you might like that, it's probably not the case.
Now, if you don't mind too terribly much, I have things to do.
Originally posted by FMF Why should anyone else share your belief that Revelation is divinely inspired when the only reason you have offered is that the person who wrote it claimed that what he'd written was divinely inspired? Surely your testimony about the content of Revelation is based on something more than just this kind of circular logic?
Surely. First thing you've said so far that is correct.
Originally posted by Suzianne Surely. First thing you've said so far that is correct.
How can the message of God's revelation that you spread be so reliant on circular logic? Why would your God figure give you such a poor hand to play in your efforts to persuade others that He has revealed Himself to you?
Originally posted by Suzianne Ahhhh, the core of the matter, finally. Do you think I've insulted you? Why would you think that? Do you see yourself in this quote? Sounds like a personal problem. I'm not your psychoanalyst.
I am not offended by what you've said in the slightest. I am asking you point blank ~ about the "charge" you have made ~ does it apply only to people with different beliefs from you or does it also apply to some people who have more or less the same beliefs as you?
Originally posted by Suzianne I mean, it could be that everyone has just nothing better to do than sit around and talk about you all day, but as much as you might like that, it's probably not the case.
But nobody is asking you to talk about me. You are being asked about something you have posted.
Originally posted by AThousandYoung It was a vision of what would happen in the future...from the perspective of people living in the first century CE.
From our perspective two thousand years later, it happened in the past.
Originally posted by FMF How can the message of God's revelation that you spread be so reliant on circular logic? Why would your God figure give you such a poor hand to play in your efforts to persuade others that He has revealed Himself to you?
It isn't. "Circular logic" has nothing to do with it. That's your argument.
He didn't. I don't have any "efforts to persuade others", at least not here. That's your shtick.
Originally posted by FMF But nobody is asking you to talk about me. You are being asked about something you have posted.
C'mon. The only reason you care about it at all is that you think I'm talking about you.
Oh, yeah, and your desire to assault me at every opportunity, in order to "make an example" of those who would dare to speak against you. And no, it doesn't have to make sense. It's your motivation, not mine.
Originally posted by Suzianne Soon, governments won't have to declare martial law, they'll be able to monitor us and control us no matter where we are.
Originally posted by Suzianne C'mon. The only reason you care about it at all is that you think I'm talking about you.
Oh, yeah, and your desire to assault me at every opportunity, in order to "make an example" of those who would dare to speak against you. And no, it doesn't have to make sense. It's your motivation, not mine.
Originally posted by Suzianne It isn't. "Circular logic" has nothing to do with it. That's your argument.
Oh but it is circular logic, Suzianne. The assertion that Revelation is divinely inspired because the person who wrote it claimed it was divinely inspired, therefore his claim ~ which is to be found in the divinely inspired Revelation ~ is itself divinely inspired... this is circular logic 101. Unless you have some other definition of circular logic...?
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