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Originally posted by vishvahetuWhat I meant is that it is all fluff and nonsense.
Nothing like one hand clapping.......why are you fabricating?
Nothing substantial. A distraction.
Why are YOU fabricating? You started it.
Originally posted by SuzianneSince neither of you seem to understand the "one hand clapping" koan, I suggest, for your own dignity, that you leave it alone. But that is only a suggestion.
What I meant is that it is all fluff and nonsense.
Nothing substantial. A distraction.
Why are YOU fabricating? You started it.
Originally posted by souvereinYes they are based on fear and here-say when you take your information from false religion.
Yes I agreed with your first point; meditation can lead to tranquility of the mind.
Your other points are not very interesting to me. They are mainly based on fear and hearsay.
Originally posted by karoly aczelLoudmouth, eh?
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Nothing....
The sound of one hand clapping makes no noise, just as I do, except for here of course, where I am a loudmouth.
Originally posted by ua41Thats why I call this life purgatory...
Loudmouth, eh?
It goes something like this- there was a master who came across students discussing objectivity and subjectivity. So the master asks them if they think the rock is in their mind or outside. One of them says "blah blah blah, Buddhism teaches everything is a product of my mind, blah blah blah, so the rock is in my mind."
"You head must be very heavy carrying that rock around!"
Originally posted by karoly aczelIf it was intended as a Koan it would not produce that remark. If it was a bland cliche it would not merit it.
Since neither of you seem to understand the "one hand clapping" koan, I suggest, for your own dignity, that you leave it alone. But that is only a suggestion.
Originally posted by finneganThnx mateπ
If it was intended as a Koan it would not produce that remark. If it was a bland cliche it would not merit it.
Originally posted by vishvahetuI meditate to lower my blood pressure. I meditate to make my mind stronger. I meditate to make me a stronger chess player. I meditate to make my musical creativity stronger.
What is meditation?
Depends on what your meditating on....
Most meditate on the tip of their nose.
Others meditate on a blue flame.
Others meditate on the great silence.
Others meditate on the stream of thoughts that go past.
All these types of meditation have one or two or three goals in mind.
1. find peace and tranquility.
2. fin ...[text shortened]... tion.
You can then contemplate truth in meditation or without meditation forever to eternity.
Originally posted by sonhouse"I dont care if I get close to some purported god."
I meditate to lower my blood pressure. I meditate to make my mind stronger. I meditate to make me a stronger chess player. I meditate to make my musical creativity stronger.
If that makes me dishonest so be it. I really don't care if you think I am going to spend my purported next life as a turtle or not. Whatever will be will be. Your Vedic masters do ...[text shortened]... , like from human to frog, frog to bacteria? If so under what conditions would that happen?
Originally posted by sonhouseI am not against meditation, and in fact I did say one can find tranquillity and some peace in this mad world....but why have you concluded that I am against meditation.
I meditate to lower my blood pressure. I meditate to make my mind stronger. I meditate to make me a stronger chess player. I meditate to make my musical creativity stronger.
If that makes me dishonest so be it. I really don't care if you think I am going to spend my purported next life as a turtle or not. Whatever will be will be. Your Vedic masters do ...[text shortened]... , like from human to frog, frog to bacteria? If so under what conditions would that happen?
Originally posted by vishvahetu"The semen contains the life". Does that mean the egg does not? Where do you get that kind of thinking?
I am not against meditation, and in fact I did say one can find tranquillity and some peace in this mad world....but why have you concluded that I am against meditation.
One thing to understand is, that your meditation is a temporary activity if it is done for peace and tranquillity.....why?
Because at death your peace and tranquillity from your med ...[text shortened]... , the resultant conception will produce a real person.......is there any other type of person.