1. Standard memberDasa
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    06 Feb '11 04:451 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    "The semen contains the life". Does that mean the egg does not? Where do you get that kind of thinking?

    You still have not answered my soul demotion question, can a soul get further demoted from human to say bug, and then can that soul do something bad as a bug that can get it further demoted to a bacteria or a virus?
    The sperm carries the soul in to the womb, and when it comes into contact with the ovum, that is the moment of conception.

    Conception is only possible, when the living sperm comes into contact with the ovum.

    The ovum has symptoms of life because it is in a living body, just like the liver has symptoms of life when situated in a living person.

    The consciousness of the body pervades the entire body into the different organs .

    Christianity teaches that the soul is created at the moment of birth.....this is false.

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    Souls

    I have answered this in a different post....but the soul within the animal, does not become demoted because there is no sin for animals and they are directed by instinct and survival needs.\

    They simply are on their way up...in the cycle.
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    06 Feb '11 04:50
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    The sperm carries the soul in to the womb, and when it comes into contact with the ovum, that is the moment of conception.

    Conception is only possible, when the living sperm comes into contact with the ovum.

    The ovum has symptoms of life because it is in a living body, just like the liver has symptoms of life when situated in a living person.

    The ...[text shortened]... emoted because there is no sin for animals and they are directed by instinct and survival needs.
    So souls can be demoted from human level to animal level but not from human level to bacteria level? If that is the case, what is the use in a bacteria to have a soul? It would not be on some spiritual upwards journey so why would there be a need for such a soul?
  3. Standard memberDasa
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    06 Feb '11 05:34
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So souls can be demoted from human level to animal level but not from human level to bacteria level? If that is the case, what is the use in a bacteria to have a soul? It would not be on some spiritual upwards journey so why would there be a need for such a soul?
    The soul within the human form, can go to animal level or it can go to bacteria level, depending on the life it lived in the past.

    Some one like Hitler would have gone to the bacteria level, and then once there will have to endure the entire cycle to come back to the human form.

    Bacteria is living so there is no question of it not having a soul.
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    06 Feb '11 08:05
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    The soul within the human form, can go to animal level or it can go to bacteria level, depending on the life it lived in the past.

    Some one like Hitler would have gone to the bacteria level, and then once there will have to endure the entire cycle to come back to the human form.

    Bacteria is living so there is no question of it not having a soul.
    Hitler became bacteria? Did you read the song lyrics in the other thread?

    People are not evil, just ignorant.

    you are all coming to the fifth dimension with me, or going to another planet to do some more penance.

    .forget your vedic rules. Everything has been turned on its head in this crazy experiment.
    Apparently 1.25 billion are going to get through. Without the intervention, no one was going to make it.
    See you all there, I'll be the one with the firey orange hair!!
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    06 Feb '11 09:481 edit
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Yes they are based on fear and here-say when you take your information from false religion.

    But real religion taught in Vedanta Sutra by Srila Vyasadeva will describe everything accurately without here-say or error.
    A pity, you can see that for other religions, but not for your own. Diehards of other religions do the same. They all have their argument ( they are the eldest; they are the youngest; they have send their god etc.)
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    06 Feb '11 13:50
    Originally posted by souverein
    A pity, you can see that for other religions, but not for your own. Diehards of other religions do the same. They all have their argument ( they are the eldest; they are the youngest; they have send their god etc.)
    You are banding together real region with false religion....why would you do that.

    You could only do that if you studied real religion and false religion, then you could make an informed decision.

    Because you have not done this your comment is ill-informed and therefore baseless.

    If you are not interested in religion or spirituality, then just say so and dont comment about anything.

    But if you are interested in spirituality and understanding God and life, then take to the real religion of Vedanta Sutra by Srila Vyasadeva and then become one of the informed persons who does have comments worth listening to.
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    06 Feb '11 15:17
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    You are banding together real region with false religion....why would you do that.

    You could only do that if you studied real religion and false religion, then you could make an informed decision.

    Because you have not done this your comment is ill-informed and therefore baseless.

    If you are not interested in religion or spirituality, then just sa ...[text shortened]... Vyasadeva and then become one of the informed persons who does have comments worth listening to.
    You are blinded to the truth, that is that all religions including your own, are simply made by men with no guidance from any god. The sooner you understand that the more you will actually live in this life and not obsessing about a situation you have no control over. Nobody knows what happens when you die, all religions have only theories.
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    06 Feb '11 15:23
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    You are blinded to the truth, that is that all religions including your own, are simply made by men with no guidance from any god. The sooner you understand that the more you will actually live in this life and not obsessing about a situation you have no control over. Nobody knows what happens when you die, all religions have only theories.
    Your are still doing.... what I said not to do.

    You are making uninformed comments that are worth nothing.

    If you want to know, then embrace real religion and learn something.

    You have looked at false religion in the past, and have rejected it because it was silly and taught falsity, but real religion will not be silly or teach error.
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