22 Dec 07
Originally posted by torch71Ah yes. Born of a virgin on Dec. 25. And who rose into the heavens while his followers watched. His unforgettable quote which still remains on a wall at the Vatican, "Unless you drink of my blood and eat of my flesh you will not be with me in the next world."
Lets all remember the reason for the season!!!
Our lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
Have a merry Christmas everyone.
This is the story of Mithras.
The religion from which this myth was "borrowed" from was Mithraism.
Mithras is the reason for the season.
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22 Dec 07
Nothing like good old fashioned Christian revisionist history.
Actually the original reason for the season is the winter solstice. Otherwise known as Yule. It is an ancient Germanic holiday. The celebration of the birth of christ was simply placed there to overlap Yule as a convenience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule
So Happy Yule!
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by UllrIt was to give the pagans an alternative, to believe in something that is real. That's why it was added then.
Nothing like good old fashioned Christian revisionist history.
Actually the original reason for the season is the winter solstice. Otherwise known as Yule. It is an ancient Germanic holiday. The celebration of the birth of christ was simply placed there to overlap Yule as a convenience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule
So Happy Yule!
So again.............MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
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22 Dec 07
Originally posted by chappy1Well at least you admit that Christmas was not originally a Christian holiday. As far as Christian Mythology being any more real than Teutonic Mythology ... well that's just a matter of opinion.
It was to give the pagans an alternative, to believe in something that is real. That's why it was added then.
So again.............MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by UllrSo your reason for posting is why? Merry Christmas
Well at least you admit that Christmas was not originally a Christian holiday. As far as Christian Mythology being any more real than Teutonic Mythology ... well that's just a matter of opinion.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by UllrMake no mistake, I know that Christmas was simply added on top of the winter solstice for the above reason, however, that was simply a strategy. Jesus was born they just don't know for sure the exact date.
Well at least you admit that Christmas was not originally a Christian holiday. As far as Christian Mythology being any more real than Teutonic Mythology ... well that's just a matter of opinion.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by UllrYou have no factual evidence to prove otherwise. So who here is the arrogant one?
My reason for posting is to educate you as to why your use of the phrase "the reason for the season" is arrogant and historically inaccurate.
Happy Yule!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by UllrYou know your right. Typically the reason for the season for most is to get together with family and exchange gifts and decorate your house and such. However, for others the reason for the season goes beyond all this. As for those people, the reason for the season really is about Christ coming into the world. Merry ChristX!!!
My reason for posting is to educate you as to why your use of the phrase "the reason for the season" is arrogant and historically inaccurate.
Happy Yule!
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22 Dec 07
Originally posted by torch71Oh please. I've only got a couple of thousand years of documented history to prove otherwise. Including works of Christian scholors like the Venerable Bede, Snorri Sturlisson, and Saxo Grammaticus. Or how about 18th century scholars like Jacob Grimm and Vicktor Rydberg. This is just to name a few.
You have no factual evidence to prove otherwise. So who here is the arrogant one?
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
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Originally posted by chappy1My reply to this thread wasn't about whether or not Jesus was born but merely an objection that originally the reason for the season had nothing to do with Jesus. You've agreed with me on that point so I commend you for not having your head up your arse.
Make no mistake, I know that Christmas was simply added on top of the winter solstice for the above reason, however, that was simply a strategy. Jesus was born they just don't know for sure the exact date.
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22 Dec 07
Originally posted by whodeyAgreed. And believe it or not, for others it is to celebrate the holiday of Yule as it was before Christianity.
You know your right. Typically the reason for the season for most is to get together with family and exchange gifts and decorate your house and such. However, for others the reason for the season goes beyond all this. As for those people, the reason for the season really is about Christ coming into the world. Merry ChristX!!!
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by UllrOk then. Nevertheless I do celebrate Christmas because I celebrate Jesus, my savior, coming into the world. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
My reply to this thread wasn't about whether or not Jesus was born but merely an objection that originally the reason for the season had nothing to do with Jesus. You've agreed with me on that point so I commend you for not having your head up your arse.