Meta-narrative

@kellyjay said
The example I used earlier having two
places hotter than each other at the same time, that cannot happen or anything
like it, so there is a harmony of truth throughout the whole.

"Having two places hotter than each other at the same time"? What is this an analogy for?

@fmf said
All you have to offer is your personal opinion about a supposed "meta-narrative and all-encompassing truth covering it from beginning to end". That's all. Your assertions about "the truth" in this context are entirely subjective. The assertions about an "all-encompassing truth" are completely personal and speculative.

So you think that truth is fragmented, two places can be hotter than each other
simultaneously? Maybe someone born after another person can be the older one?
How would truth not be the same, change conditions, the results could be different,
but that is also true everywhere? How is it not true? Explain, please.

@fmf said
"Having two places hotter than each other at the same time"? What is this an analogy for?

Give me an example where what is true is not true everywhere under the same
conditions. Two people each at different sizes both be taller than the other one?

@kellyjay said
So you think that truth is fragmented, two places can be hotter than each other
simultaneously?

No. I am asking you what "Having two places hotter than each other at the same time" is an analogy for? You said it, not me.

@kellyjay said
Give me an example where what is true is not true everywhere under the same
conditions. Two people each at different sizes both be taller than the other one?

Why are you being so silly? These are facetious questions. What point is it you think you are making?

@kellyjay said
Give me an example where what is true is not true everywhere under the same
conditions.

You do it. It's YOUR "concept".

@fmf said
No. I am asking you what "Having two places hotter than each other at the same time" is an analogy for? You said it, not me.

I'm asking if the two contradicting points be true at the same time? They can not be.
Do you think someone who holds points of view that are in conflict with each other
has a handle on what they think, or are they confused and wrong, always?

@fmf said
You do it. It's YOUR "concept".

My beliefs are not the subject.

@kellyjay said
I'm asking if the two contradicting points be true at the same time?

Measure the temperature at location A and then measure the temperature at location B and then see which is hotter.

@kellyjay said
My beliefs are not the subject.

They absolutely are. Your beliefs are the ONLY thing you are offering up for discussion.

@kellyjay said
Do you think someone who holds points of view that are in conflict with each other
has a handle on what they think, or are they confused and wrong, always?

People can disagree about supernatural beings and phenomena. Their points of view are subjective. If your opinions on these matters are "confused and wrong", it doesn't really matter as long as they don't lead to you doing harm to others.

@kellyjay said
Two people each at different sizes both be taller than the other one?

Their height can be measured. Who the taller person is can be ascertained. Assertions about their relative tallness don't generate facts other than facts about what opinions different people hold.

@fmf said
Measure the temperature at location A and then measure the temperature at location B and then see which is hotter.

Yes, in a harmony of truth, one will be hotter, or they will be the same, what they
will not be are both of them are hotter than the other simultaneously.

@fmf said
Their height can be measured. Who the taller person is can be ascertained. Assertions about their relative tallness don't generate facts other than facts about what opinions different people hold.

Yes, I agree, the truth will be that way all of the time, a universe where truth is
fractured isn't something real where those times of things are not the way.

@kellyjay said
Yes, in a harmony of truth, one will be hotter, or they will be the same, what they
will not be are both of them are hotter than the other simultaneously.

It's not "a harmony of truth", KellyJay. It's two measurements creating two empirical facts. The difference between these two measurements is then an objective fact.