Originally posted by robbie carrobie
actually i think its the greedy exploitation of the earths natural resources mainly due to the unscrupulous use of science and technology that is responsible for more damage than the religious.
I see. The excesses of science, which is about 150 years old, 300 years max, is much more culpable that the last 3000 years of deadly religious wars.
The fact that the average lifespan of humans today is what, 3 times that of 300 years ago, much less than 3000 years ago means nothing, eh.
The fact that the majority of people around the world, percentage wise, are not starving, that for the most part have decent health care, that means nothing.
The fact that a woman bearing children even 300 years ago had a pretty good chance of dying along with the baby and now that is way down the list of deadly medical problems, the biggest of which in now smoking, killing millions every year around the world, which is entirely in the hands of humans to prevent if the smoking asssholes would stop their dreaded habit.
I can see now that science is SO culpable in all that.
A large part of our present difficulty is the beginnings of agriculture 10,000 years ago or 15,000, depending on your source. The average health went down tremendously upon the introduction of agriculture. It started the first divisions between those on top and those on the bottom, making for the first slave class, the first war lords and the first religions. For instance, Stonehenge was a monument to figuring out the equinoxes to figure the best time to sow and such, an auxiliary of agriculture. It was agriculture that started us down the dark road we find ourselves in today, not science. Now we are deep in the belly of agriculture and need to keep digging the trench of that pursuit to the end.
I'm not of those teary eyed tree huggers saying people were so much better off back in the ancient hunter gatherer days but the stratification of humanity definitely started when agriculture took hold.
You want to blame anyone for the deterioration of the human race, blame it on the first farmers not scientists. Science is and always will be, a two edged sword. There are millions of scientists around the world trying their best to repair the damage that bad science gave us like nuclear energy. What a boondoggle that one turned out to be, great for the first 20 or 30 years but the radiation bill you pay later....
Well now we are pursuing environmentally safer and sustainable methods of getting our business done, transportation, lighting, heating, cooling, sewage and such, all done in a sustainable way. So you figure all that effort should be short circuited as blind greed?