Originally posted by googlefudge That doesn't answer the question.
Obviously God had to allow man free will to love and obey Him or it would not be true love. But Eve was deceived and tempted to be selfish and disobey God by eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil because it looked good to the eyes and good for food. Adam desired Eve's love and affection more than God's and chose to side with Eve and hide from God.
Since God had warned Adam of the consequences of disobedience by eating of that fruit and since God knows more than we do, He apparently decided it was best to allow the consequences of sin and death to play itself out over many generations. God has said He will stop all sin and death in His own good time.
Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. (2 Peter 3:3-7 NASB)
Originally posted by wolfgang59 You have said that God exists outside of time - he sees the past, present and future as one. What can "in his own good time" possibly mean?
God also lives in our time too. The Holy Spirit is with us now.
Jesus said:
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi it is necessary for the faith of love and compassion that the world be ended in torment and bloodshed? can't it be over by porky pig appearing in the sky and saying "that's all folks!"?
or better yet, why must it be done at all? why shouldn't humanity be allowed to be all that it can be? to discover, to travel to the stars?
because of sin. The age of sin must come to an end.
it is necessary for the faith of love and compassion that the world be ended in torment and bloodshed? can't it be over by porky pig appearing in the sky and saying "that's all folks!"?
It is evil bringing the torment and bloodshed. Jesus came to ensure that we are not shackled by sin forever.
You always sound to me like your beliefs are more akin to "atheist lite". Why do you call yourself a Christian? Do you believe in God? Sometimes it's not entirely clear.
Originally posted by menace71 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens ex ...[text shortened]... fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. (2 Peter 3:3-7 NASB)
Manny
Yes, exactly! If I could give more than one thumbs up to this, I would.
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