Mouths speaking great swelling things

"These are murmurers, complainers, going on according to their own lusts; and their mouth speaks great swelling things, flattering persons for the sake of advantage." ~ Jude 16-19

I see this verse being wielded and aimed at people on this forum from time to time.

Might not the unilateral declaration "their mouth speaks great swelling things" just as easily be a way of describing the very people who are wielding and aiming it?

Thoughts?

@fmf said
"These are murmurers, complainers, going on according to their own lusts; and their mouth speaks great swelling things, flattering persons for the sake of advantage." ~ Jude 16-19

I see this verse being wielded and aimed at people on this forum from time to time.

Might not the unilateral declaration "their mouth speaks great swelling things" just as easily be a way of describing the very people who are wielding and aiming it?

Thoughts?

@kellyjay said
There is a lot things in Jude for a book that only has one chapter in it.

Here is a little more.

Jude
But you must remember, beloved, the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. They said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions.” It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. But you, ...[text shortened]... ist our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

@fmf said
Not willing to address the OP then?

@kellyjay said
I addressed Jude; when I read what you said, you got my thoughts; it was what I thought about.

@fmf said
"These are murmurers, complainers, going on according to their own lusts; and their mouth speaks great swelling things, flattering persons for the sake of advantage." ~ Jude 16-19

I see this verse being wielded and aimed at people on this forum from time to time.

Might not the unilateral declaration "their mouth speaks great swelling things" just as easily be a way of describing the very people who are wielding and aiming it?

Thoughts?

@fmf said
"These are murmurers, complainers, going on according to their own lusts; and their mouth speaks great swelling things, flattering persons for the sake of advantage." ~ Jude 16-19

I see this verse being wielded and aimed at people on this forum from time to time.

Might not the unilateral declaration "their mouth speaks great swelling things" just as easily be a way of describing the very people who are wielding and aiming it?

Thoughts?

@FMF

Thoughts?

@josephw said
My thoughts?

You cherry picked a verse, taking it out of its context, and made an application of it that has nothing to do with what it's talking about.

@sonship said
The mother of all great swelling words are "There is no God" announced by atheists. What great swelling words of pride, of arrogance from fallen human beings could exceed these?

@FMF


I thought I did not bold that.
" There is no God"

Great swelling words are not restricted to unbelievers or believers.
But to get an idea of what Jude had in mind, I (if no one else) check the other things he wrote in that context -

" To execute judgment against all and to convict all the ungodly concerning all thier ungodly works which they have done in ungodliness, and concerning all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. These are murmurers, complainers, . . . etc. their mouth speaks great swelling things, . . . "

I get the impression of ungodly, ungodliness doings and words to indicate simply not expressing anything of God's influence on human living or against outright against Him or regarding Him.

Giving thanks to God is a remedy to keep the mouth from this kind of ugly speech.

Confession of our sins is also a deterrent.
Praise to the Lord and petition for all men also helps us to "taste" the ugliness of
innappropirate words of swelling pride. These are practical helps for some of us to stear away from speaking "great swelling things" in our murmuring, complaining, blasphemies. This kind of speaking stains our character.

Proverbs says "A gentle tongue is a tree of life" (Prov. 15:4)

And as to your probable next comment - No, I have not always displayed this "gentle tongue" here.

@sonship said
I thought I did not bold that.
" There is no God"

@sonship said
Great swelling words are not restricted to unbelievers or believers.

@FMF

Okay.
I didn't name FMF in the post.

I pointed out that the affirmation of there being no God (classic atheism) is indeed great swelling words.

If you say that's not you, I accept that.
You say "God figure" instead as if God could only be one or more figments of someone's imagination - just an imaginary figure.

You are a special kind of atheist - not saying there is no God or gods, just saying all such reference is imaginary.

@sonship said
I pointed out that the affirmation of there being no God (classic atheism) is indeed great swelling words.