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    01 Jun '11 19:42
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So the implication is some tenants of religion are correct. Can you enlighten us as to which of these tenants are in fact correct?
    You will have to show me the logic that implies, from what I said in that post, that the tenets of any religion are correct.
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    01 Jun '11 19:52
    Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
    An atheist can love and be kind and altruistic without religion and many do just that; just like many theists. So religion is not a necessary part of that.
    yes indeed, but no one was saying that it was to be exclusive to the religious were they? he merely asked for a religious tenet that was correct.
  3. Standard memberSeitse
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    01 Jun '11 22:15
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Thus justifying my claim you are a hypocrite. Look who is calling the kettle black.
    Are you gay?
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    01 Jun '11 22:20
    Originally posted by JS357
    You will have to show me the logic that implies, from what I said in that post, that the tenets of any religion are correct.
    Originally posted by JS357
    "The non-theistic basis of morality is the benefit of living in groups. Living in groups necessitates the establishment of rules. Groups enshrine their moral rules in their religion for reasons that should be obvious. Certain rules concerning the most important matters are also enforced by government. In some instances the institutions overlap.

    The above position does not imply that the basic claims of religion are false."

    That last statement I took to mean that some of the basic claims of religion are not false.

    I like the concept of non theistic morality stemming from the well being of people, trying to arrange things so the maximum number of people live the best lives they can without suffering the fate of slavery or rule by thugs. That seems enough of a basis for me. Sam Harris has some powerful arguments in that direction.
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    02 Jun '11 08:05
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Originally posted by JS357
    "The non-theistic basis of morality is the benefit of living in groups. Living in groups necessitates the establishment of rules. Groups enshrine their moral rules in their religion for reasons that should be obvious. Certain rules concerning the most important matters are also enforced by government. In some instances the insti ...[text shortened]... hat seems enough of a basis for me. Sam Harris has some powerful arguments in that direction.
    Seitse is trolling. Don't waste your time. 🙂
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    02 Jun '11 11:48
    Originally posted by lausey
    Seitse is trolling. Don't waste your time. 🙂
    Hey, don't ruin my fun! 😠
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    02 Jun '11 14:31
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Are you gay?
    So you are at heart a comedian, not posting a genuine discussion. It took a bit to figure that one out.
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    02 Jun '11 14:35
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    I mean, really: who makes a living out of telling others they are idiots?
    Dr. Laura?
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    02 Jun '11 15:11
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So you are at heart a comedian
    Pull my finger.

    Go on, pull it.
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    02 Jun '11 15:542 edits
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Are you gay?
    Seitse's Law

    "As an online discussion with Seitse grows longer, the probability of him asking questions about your sexuality approaches 1"
  11. Standard memberSeitse
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    02 Jun '11 17:18
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Seitse's Law
    You like to be dominated, don't you, little piggy? 😉 Groar!
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    02 Jun '11 21:21
    Originally posted by Seitse
    You like to be dominated, don't you, little piggy? 😉 Groar!
    I rest my case.
  13. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    02 Jun '11 21:44
    Encore!!!
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    03 Jun '11 11:55
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I rest my case.
    Your case has been resting for decades, man.

    I'd recommend taking ging-seng capsules.
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    04 Jun '11 01:42
    Originally posted by Agerg
    We're in the 21st century; humans have put man on the moon, probed deep into the building blocks of the universe through physics, connected the world through the internet, discovered our origins through the theory of evolution, and much much more...

    Yet still...

    We still haven't rid ourselves of the stain of fundamentalist dogma. Nor have we healed the b ...[text shortened]... the edge of the flat earth you and your zealot chums still believe in.


    Have a nice day 🙂
    You must be upset that you are not going to get raptured.
    Well there just might be a remedy for that. Believe on
    the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved.
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