1. PenTesting
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    01 May '12 11:38
    Originally posted by Taoman
    Well said Robbie. "Infested" indeed. lol. Greetings. I think the basic rules of forum use would sufficiently address the problems if followed, with more frequent reminders and guidance from moderators.
    One doesn't want to stifle the free interchange of ideas or comments between followers of different paths or philosophies.
    But unfortunately the rules are b ...[text shortened]... trusion into the general debate, regardless of the validity of the points being made.
    While Im certainly an offender at times, I have to say that in my estimation the JWs on this site are by far the biggest offender and break many of those guidelines.
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    01 May '12 12:09
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    While Im certainly an offender at times, I have to say that in my estimation the JWs on this site are by far the biggest offender and break many of those guidelines.
    I'm sure we all offend at times. Stronger moderation would certainly help but that would put an extra workload on the moderators. They would be spending a disproportionate time here when they are trying to manage a chess website.

    I don't really have a solution, other than shutting down the forum entirely! At least I would get a lot more work done.

    --- Penguin.
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    01 May '12 13:23
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If they dare? one has no need to go to the science forum, spirituality is infested with scientific threads

    1.what is the theory of evolution

    3.primates with moral sense

    5. the age of the universe

    7.the age of the universe

    8. famous scientists who believed in God

    12.bacteria
    Which of those threads were actually scientific in your opinion (the OP).
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    01 May '12 13:43
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Which of those threads were actually scientific in your opinion (the OP).
    all of them.
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    01 May '12 16:37
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If they dare? one has no need to go to the science forum, spirituality is infested with scientific threads

    1.what is the theory of evolution

    3.primates with moral sense

    5. the age of the universe

    7.the age of the universe

    8. famous scientists who believed in God

    12.bacteria
    Only one of those, #3, was actually a thread about science. Don't believe every thread title you read. 🙂
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    01 May '12 16:43
    Originally posted by Taoman
    Well said Robbie. "Infested" indeed. lol. Greetings. I think the basic rules of forum use would sufficiently address the problems if followed, with more frequent reminders and guidance from moderators.
    One doesn't want to stifle the free interchange of ideas or comments between followers of different paths or philosophies.
    But unfortunately the rules are b ...[text shortened]... trusion into the general debate, regardless of the validity of the points being made.
    The forum guidelines are intentionally broadly written to excuse RHP from liability in the event that they remove posts. Thankfully, they are not rigidly enforced. That would kill all interest in the forums.

    I don't want some moderator deciding what is too defamatory or abusive for me. I don't want them to take offense on my behalf. I am against censorship in general. If the words of certain posters make them look ugly, that is a reflection on them, and they will suffer damage to their reputation. This is actually a good thing, as it exposes their ugliness for all to see, and reduces their credibility.
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    01 May '12 16:54
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If they dare? one has no need to go to the science forum, spirituality is infested with scientific threads

    1.what is the theory of evolution

    3.primates with moral sense

    5. the age of the universe

    7.the age of the universe

    8. famous scientists who believed in God

    12.bacteria
    As far as I can tell, NONE of those threads was posted on this forum for the stated reasons that threads are to be posted on the Science forum. All of them were posted on this forum for the purpose to which this Spirituality forum is being put by many, if not most, of its frequent posters. Those opposed to the point made in these posts were all too willing to go for the bait, showing that they know the reason for these posts. Pavlov lives!

    That purpose these posts serve is the ongoing and unresolvable (here) conflict between reactionary fundamentalist-style Christianity and the modern world, in this case, the modern world as represented by popularized, antitheistic readings of modern science.

    So have I offended both sides evenly? I can work on that.
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    01 May '12 17:331 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    all of them.
    What does the word 'scientific' mean, in your opinion?
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    01 May '12 17:381 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    What does the word 'scientific' mean, in your opinion?
    [Edit: It refers to] one of Satan's programs to destroy faith?
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    01 May '12 17:402 edits
    Originally posted by JS357
    As far as I can tell, NONE of those threads was posted on this forum for the stated reasons that threads are to be posted on the Science forum. All of them were posted on this forum for the purpose to which this Spirituality forum is being put by many, if not most, of its frequent posters. Those opposed to the point made in these posts were all too willing to ...[text shortened]... heistic readings of modern science.

    So have I offended both sides evenly? I can work on that.
    reactionary fundamentalist-style Christianity and the modern world

    weasel words! and just straight hot of the presses,

    another deeply spiritual topic, Darwinian selection in humans right now! thank you
    sonhouse.
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    01 May '12 17:411 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    What does the word 'scientific' mean, in your opinion?
    my opinions have no relevance to anyone but me! mind yer own business! 😛
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    02 May '12 13:431 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    The forum guidelines are intentionally broadly written to excuse RHP from liability in the event that they remove posts. Thankfully, they are not rigidly enforced. That would kill all interest in the forums.

    I don't want some moderator deciding what is too defamatory or abusive for me. I don't want them to take offense on my behalf. I am against censo ...[text shortened]... ally a good thing, as it exposes their ugliness for all to see, and reduces their credibility.
    Thanks for that thoughtful contribution. I agree to a point. If we see a forum discussion a bit like a conversation of a few people standing in a group, some of the behaviors - constantly off topic/dominating the conversation/prosyletising - the topic at hand progresses little and it ends up an unenjoyable conversation and somewhat non-stimulating. Legal-like enforcement rarely works;the most a moderator can do, and I believe should do more often than is apparent is remind of guidelines to encourage self regulation. I have NEVER witnessed moderator input on the forum when I was earlier more participative, although I think it has happened.
  13. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    05 May '12 00:52
    How about 2 subdivisions of the spirituality forum titled "East" and "West" ?

    Thumbed responses are adequate
  14. Standard memberrvsakhadeo
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    06 May '12 11:24
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Indeed time and again we are confronted with base materialism deviod of even a
    semblance of spirituality in some guise or another. Nor is it only Christians who are
    subject to it, my friend from India, rvsakhadeo, a Hindu by faith has introduced many
    fine spiritual concepts only to be subject to the same materialistic arguments deviod of
    spi ...[text shortened]... the materialists their own
    forum and let those that are interested in spirituality discuss it.
    By chance I had a look at this thread and read that you have complimented my contributions ! Thanks !!
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    06 May '12 12:32
    Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
    By chance I had a look at this thread and read that you have complimented my contributions ! Thanks !!
    That's the spirit!
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