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Originally posted by menace71So you think that the Brothers at the WTS hid back in some dark room and conjurd up these thoughts and consciencely said something to the affect " we want to trick all we can with these ideas about those dates, we know it's a lie but lets do this anyway"?
un·truth [uhn-trooth]
noun, plural un·truths  [-troothz, -trooths] Show IPA.
1.
the state or character of being untrue.
2.
want of veracity; divergence from truth.
3.
something untrue; a falsehood or lie.
4.
Archaic . unfaithfulness; disloyalty.
taken from : http://dictionary.reference.com/
Manny
PS: so yes I honestly believe an untruth is the same as a lie
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If they did this, what exactly would be the purpose of that?
Do ya think that even though they thought these dates would be the end of the world by Jehovah bringing on armegeddon, it was just to make fools of themselves?
NO it was to warn all the people on the earth that had been watching and paying attention to the signs Jesus spoke of to his follwers.
Sure they hadn't had the clearist understand then......................but they were doing the best they could and as time goes on it gets clearer and clearer.
We sure know more then Mr Rajj knows as he has openly admitted he does not understand what they all mean and if they even apply now/ No clue.
So IF you would get off this attack horse your stuck on and would ctually listen and use your Bible with a true honesty in wanting to learn, you might get it.
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Originally posted by menace71Ok this is important.
un·truth [uhn-trooth]
noun, plural un·truths  [-troothz, -trooths] Show IPA.
1.
the state or character of being untrue.
2.
want of veracity; divergence from truth.
3.
something untrue; a falsehood or lie.
4.
Archaic . unfaithfulness; disloyalty.
taken from : http://dictionary.reference.com/
Manny
PS: so yes I honestly believe an untruth is the same as a lie
You looked up the definition of untruth, not lie. The definition you cite confirms that untruths and lies can be the same thing. It does not confirm that all untruths are lies and that the terms are synonymous.
We can demonstrate this easily. If your watch was broken and you were asked the time, and gave it incorrectly, would you have told an untruth. Of course. But would you have lied?
Of course not. So if all you meant was that JWs stated something which was untrue, you should retract your accusations of lying, even if it was unintentional.
Originally posted by galveston75Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
. We sure know more then Mr Rajj knows as he has openly admitted he does not understand what they all mean and if they even apply now/ No clue...
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
If the WatchTower and YOU heeded this advice then they/you would have far more credibility now. As it stands you people are the laughing stock of the Christian world.
Originally posted by Rajk999of the Christian world, what world is that? Lets see, the one where your priests and
[b]Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
If the WatchTower and YOU heeded this advice then they/you would have far more credibility now. As it stands you people are the laughing stock of the Christian world.[/b]
ministers have the most horrendous record of child abuse? lets see, the one where
you have an unenviable record of killing other christians in two world wars? lets see,
the one where you are now marrying homosexuals in your churches despite it being
contrary to the sacred text? lets see, the one where your tv evangelists are fleecing
millions and spending it on lavish lifestyles, sporting £35,000 watches and then
doctoring the photographs, yeah, if anyone knows funny its you plastic weed like
christians 4sure.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMaybe you might listen to Solomon instead then:
of the Christian world, what world is that? Lets see, the one where your priests and
ministers have the most horrendous record of child abuse? lets see, the one where
you have an unenviable record of killing other christians in two world wars? lets see,
the one where you are now marrying homosexuals in your churches despite it being
contra ...[text shortened]... oring the photographs, yeah, if anyone knows funny its you plastic weed like
christians 4sure.
Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
Originally posted by Rajk999getteth a propereth translation, this is 2012, not 1689, can you digeth?
Maybe you might listen to Solomon instead then:
[b] Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat is because it is now on record and not covered up like it used to be (and like your church still does).
Lets see, the one where your priests and ministers have the most horrendous record of child abuse?
The fact is however that there is no evidence that child abuse is higher amongst priests than any other group of people (including your own Church members). It is just more publicized partly because if what the position of priest represents and partly because there were a lot of cover ups by people who new what was going on.
Also there are a lot more priests than leaders in your church. If your Church was bigger, there would be more scandals (you would have trouble covering up all of them).
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou post in a forum where you know there will be detractors....?
Please do not lower yourself to the level of a tabloid journalist Rank Outsider by
acquiescing to their fiendish machinations, I wish these stalkers would simply leave me
alone, I have requested that they do so, but my words make no progress with them. I
really do have nothing I wish to say to them and I don't want anything from them either.
Manny