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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051130.wxlimbo30/BNStory/International/
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What a waste of brain.
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What a waste of brain.
Originally posted by orfeoIt's proof positive that religion is baloney; they can change the "ultimate truth" on no other authority than an acute sense of embarrassment. They make it up as they go along. Absurd.
Good. As a non-Catholic, the idea of limbo always mystified me a bit. I never understood where the notion had come from.
Originally posted by KneverKnightWell, given that a large number of Christians have a problem with Catholic doctrine being described as 'ultimate truth'...
It's proof positive that religion is baloney; they can change the "ultimate truth" on no other authority than an acute sense of embarrassment. They make it up as they go along. Absurd.
Originally posted by orfeoSurely something like this must give any religious person, Christian or otherwise, pause.
Well, given that a large number of Christians have a problem with Catholic doctrine being described as 'ultimate truth'...
I'm not sure I agree with your logic entirely but I acknowledge the sentiment.
Originally posted by orfeoEssentially - the difference between mortal sin and original sin.
Good. As a non-Catholic, the idea of limbo always mystified me a bit. I never understood where the notion had come from.
Originally posted by KneverKnightYou can't change the "ultimate truth" of Proposition X if you never claimed Proposition X was true in the first place.
It's proof positive that religion is baloney; they can change the "ultimate truth" on no other authority than an acute sense of embarrassment. They make it up as they go along. Absurd.
Originally posted by KneverKnightNot really.
Surely something like this must give any religious person, Christian or otherwise, pause.
EDIT: Man made religion after all.
Originally posted by lucifershammerlol
You can't change the "ultimate truth" of Proposition X if you never claimed Proposition X was true in the first place.
The RCC never defined limbus infantium as dogma, so there wouldn't be a "change" if it now defined against it.
Originally posted by orfeoExactly and I'm glad you said that.
Not really.
As that article makes clear, limbo was never a concept from the Bible. It was invented in the Middle Ages in an attempt to explain something that troubled people. So a Christian who's quite fundamentalist about the Bible could pretty much ignore the whole doctrine without feeling any conflict about it.
I think even if someone tried to chan ...[text shortened]... never mind the resurrection. I honestly struggle to understand how they do it, but they manage.
Originally posted by KneverKnightThat's not what I said. LIMBO was invented in the Middle Ages.
Exactly and I'm glad you said that.
Christianity as we know it was invented in the Middle Ages.
Originally posted by orfeoI don't want to pick on Christians.
That's not what I said. LIMBO was invented in the Middle Ages.
I base my Christian beliefs on the Bible as far as possible. Even though people dispute the authorship of some parts, the Bible as we know it has been around since at least 300-400AD.
Personally, I have no reason to doubt that the Bible was completed before about 100AD.