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    18 Apr '16 14:28
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    That's like saying a perfectly qualified non-swimmer can apply for a life-saver position.

    edit: totally different to an atheist cleaning the toilets at a Christian Theme Park.
    No, I don't get that at all.

    Racist misogynists are perfectly capable of cleaning toilets... Or if they are not it's not
    because they are racist misogynists.

    But lets talk about the 'atheist cleaning toilets at a Christian theme park'...

    Work place anti-discrimination law exists not just to prevent hiring and firing being determined by
    factors we deem to be unfairly discriminatory [ie protected factors such as ethnicity, gender, faith, etc]
    but to ensure that while employed all the employees have a safe and discrimination free workplace.

    So as an atheist at this theme park, I should not have to put up with constant attempts to evangelise
    about Christianity from my co-workers.... Which poses a problem because a major point of this place
    [aside from making Ken Ham a bunch of cash] is to evangelise about [a particular subset of] Christianity.

    For the same reason that in a church you expect all the people to be fervent Christians who are all happy
    to discuss Christianity at the drop of a hat because that is what a church is for, you could argue [and Vivify is]
    that this Christian theme park has a similar purpose and those working there would expect to be able to preach
    and evangelise about their religion without worrying about trampling anyone else's work-place rights because
    they are all from the same religion.
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    18 Apr '16 14:30
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    That's not a reasonable requirement from the employer.
    Not in the normal course no.

    But in a Church or other similar institution it's a perfectly normal one.
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    18 Apr '16 14:31
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Sounds like a lovers tiff between Duchess and Googlefudge to me.
    Then you have a very weird idea about what love sounds like.
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    18 Apr '16 15:001 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Then you have a very weird idea about what love sounds like.
    Perhaps if I put a "tongue-poke" emoticon after my post, would that have helped you get the humour in it?

    Duchess69 was being his usual prissy drama-queen self. I'm just noting that his weird protestations sounded a bit like a lover having a spat with their partner. Besides I said "lovers tiff", not "love".
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    18 Apr '16 15:23
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Perhaps if I put a "tongue-poke" emoticon after my post, would that have helped you get the humour in it?

    Duchess69 was being his usual prissy drama-queen self. I'm just noting that his weird protestations sounded a bit like a lover having a spat with their partner. Besides I said "lovers tiff", not "love".
    Apparently my post also needed a tongue-poke emoticon. Tone is hard on the internets.
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    18 Apr '16 17:43
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Not in the normal course no.

    But in a Church or other similar institution it's a perfectly normal one.
    Well, I've already accepted an exemption for priests. But I don't think it's a reasonable requirement for a caretaker.
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    18 Apr '16 18:17
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Apparently my post also needed a tongue-poke emoticon. Tone is hard on the internets.
    Fair.

    I think we are pretty much arguing the same points here anyway.
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    18 Apr '16 18:20
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
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    Gandhi was shrewd enough to tell missionaries, “I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” When asked why he did not embrace Christianity, Gandhi said it offered nothing he could not get from his own religion, observing, “…to be a good Hindu also meant that I would be a good Christian. There is no need for me to join your creed to be a believer in the beauty of the teachings of Jesus or try to follow His example.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/31/gandhi-glimpsed-christ-rejecting-christianity-fals/?page=all


    By and large, the core beliefs of Christianity have little to do what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth and in many ways are antithetical to those teachings. Gandhi was one of many intelligent thinkers who have recognized this over the years.

    When it comes to their core beliefs, seems like the vast majority of Christians are unable to operate within the realm of reason. Of course, that seems like it may apply to many of the opinions of vivify, GF, et al.
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    20 Apr '16 02:04
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Perhaps if I put a "tongue-poke" emoticon after my post, would that have helped you get the humour in it?

    Duchess69 was being his usual prissy drama-queen self. I'm just noting that his weird protestations sounded a bit like a lover having a spat with their partner. Besides I said "lovers tiff", not "love".
    Humor? Oh, really?

    I don't find you making a point of calling her a "him" very humorous at all.
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    20 Apr '16 18:04
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Humor? Oh, really?

    I don't find you making a point of calling her a "him" very humorous at all.
    Duchess69 is a male, as far as I know. I open to correction. But that wasn't where the humour lay anyway. Interesting that you thought it was.
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    20 Apr '16 18:33
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Duchess69 is a male, as far as I know. I open to correction. But that wasn't where the humour lay anyway. Interesting that you thought it was.
    I'm so confused.
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