28 Apr 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyLemmonJello's solitary emoticon was a fitting response to your waffly cop out answer to his post. How does the Aldous Huxley quote in any way rehabilitate your evasive post addressed to him on page 6? 🙂
In my context the "innovator" is the Person of Christ; "persecuted" of course not.
Evelyn (an RN) may have replied: "FMF, my dear man, are you full of prunes?"
Originally posted by wolfgang59Since academe is less than unanimous in ascribing this quotation to Plato, answering your question presents a challenge. Ignoring the issue of authorship, I doubt any particular academic discipline is in view. With the child/adult counterpoint central to its meaning, my take is that human behavior is being isolated and portrayed... specifically honesty with respect to truth: not just talking or writing about truth but squarely facing and processing it however inconvenient without becoming emotionally overwhelmed. Cowardly choosing a life of protective ignorance and familiar confusion eventually results in a pretend world of self absorption and self-delusion. Why? To avoid the light of absolute truth out of fear of being found out.
And of what was Plato speaking?
What is the light?
Science? Maths? Knowledge?
"John 3:18-21 18 He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.” New American Standard Bible
29 Apr 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyCowardly choosing a life of protective ignorance and familiar confusion eventually results in a pretend world of self absorption and self-delusion. Why? To avoid the light of absolute truth out of fear of being found out.
The problem with hiding behind other people's quotes, though, Grampy Bobby, is that they can so often just as easily be interpreted as referring to the likes of you, as is the case with this Plato one.
It's funny that you, of all people here, should be talking about ...cowardly choosing a life of protective ignorance and familiar confusion eventually results in a pretend world of self absorption and self-delusion when these words could easily be about you; A life of protective ignorance? Check. Familiar confusion? Check. A pretend world? Check. Self absorption? Check. Self-delusion? Check. The irony is both rich and deep.
29 Apr 14
Originally posted by FMF17.
[b]Cowardly choosing a life of protective ignorance and familiar confusion eventually results in a pretend world of self absorption and self-delusion. Why? To avoid the light of absolute truth out of fear of being found out.
The problem with hiding behind other people's quotes, though, Grampy Bobby, is that they can so often just as easily be interpreted ...[text shortened]... end world? Check. Self absorption? Check. Self-delusion? Check. The irony is both rich and deep.[/b]
29 Apr 14
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyBut doesn't that just mean that your quoting of Plato [and your words about the "cowardice" and "self-absorption"etc. of those you are targetting with it ] was simply "17" as well?
17. >> "17.You find yourself judging others." > "Soul Loss" thread.
Originally posted by wolfgang59... and you say, "You're welcome".
Picture this:
I ask one of my students a question to find
out his understanding and he replies "Thank you"
I have worked in Special Education so I would not be too surprised.
Edit: Reason? To inject or inculcate a measure of civility to enable the conversation to begin or continue.
30 Apr 14
Originally posted by twhiteheadFor effective communication to occur both sender and receiver of the content of the message have a responsibility: sender to encode the words with clarity and receiver to decode them with objectivity. Both must have a shared frame of reference.
I am afraid that that is not how it comes across.
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30 Apr 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhich is of course why you make your posts as vague and unintelligible as possible.
For effective communication to occur both sender and receiver of the content of the message have a responsibility: sender to encode the words with clarity and receiver to decode them with objectivity. Both must have a shared frame of reference.
Talk in cryptic crossword clues and fortune cookie wisdom...
And if all else fails copy paste an irrelevant quote.
All the while not bothering to actually read or engage with the posts of anyone else.