Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]If you really want people to believe the same as you do, then you would do well to try and convince them that your beliefs are correct.
Perhaps GB doesn't bother because he knows that it's tough sledding pushing his "faith only" dogma - especially with the verse he chose.
Following is the American Standard Version translation of the same vers ...[text shortened]... I can tell, GB has either used a very uncommon translation or altered one for his own purposes.[/b]
"He that believeth on the Son hath eternal life; but he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life,
but the wrath of God abideth on him." ASV
#333; Part of Speech: verb
Root Word (Etymology) From (G545) Dictionary Aids Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry TDNT Reference: 6:10,818 Outline of Biblical Usage
1. not to allow one's self to be persuaded
1. to refuse or withhold belief
2. to refuse belief and obedience
2. not to comply with
KJV Translation Count — Total: 16x The KJV translates Strongs G544 in the following manner: believe not (8x), disobedient (4x), obey not (3x), unbelieving (1x). Thayer's Greek Lexicon Word / Phrase / Strong's Search
Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words
1 Strong's Number: g543 Greek: apeitheia
Disobedience, Disobedient: lit., "the condition of being unpersuadable"
[a, negative, peitho, "to persuade"], denotes "obstinacy, obstinate rejection of the will of God;" hence, "disobedience;" Eph 2:2; 5:6; Col 3:6, and in the RV of Rom 11:30, 32 and Hbr 4:6, 11 [for AV, "unbelief"], speaking of Israel, past and present. See UNBELIEF.
1 Adjective Strong's Number: g545 Greek: apeithes
Disobedience, Disobedient: akin to A, No. 1, signifies "unwilling to be persuaded, spurning belief, disobedient,"
Luk 1:17; Act 26:19; Rom 1:30; 2Ti 3:2; Tts 1:16; 3:3.
Note: In 1Ti 1:9 anupotaktos, "insubordinate, unsubjected" [a, negative, n, euphonic, hupo, "under," tasso, "to order"], is translated "disobedient" in the AV; the RV has "unruly," as in Tts 1:6, 10; in Hbr 2:8, "not subject" (RV), "not put under" (AV). See PUT, UNRULY.
2 Strong's Number: g3876 Greek: parakoe
Disobedience, Disobedient: primarily, "hearing amiss" [para, "aside," akouo, "to hear"], hence signifies "a refusal to hear;" hence, "an act of disobedience," Rom 5:19; 2Cr 10:6; Hbr 2:2. It is broadly to be distinguished from No. 1, as an act from a condition, though parakoe itself is the effect, in transgression, of the condition of failing or refusing to hear. Carelessness in attitude is the precursor of actual "disobedience." In the OT "disobedience" is frequently described as "a refusing to hear," e.g., Jer 11:10; 35:17; cp. Act 7:57. See Trench, Syn. xvi.
101 Verb Strong's Number: g544 Greek: apeitheo
Disobedience, Disobedient: akin to A, No. 1, and B, "to refuse to be persuaded, to refuse belief, to be disobedient," is translated "disobedient," or by the verb "to be disobedient,"
in the RV of Act 14:2 [AV, "unbelieving"], and Act 19:9 [AV, "believed not"]; it is absent from the most authentic mss. in Act 17:5; in Jhn 3:36 "obeyeth not," RV AV, "believeth not"];
in Rom 2:8 "obey not;" in Rom 10:21, "disobedient;" in Rom 11:30, 31, "were disobedient" [AV, "have not believed"]; so in Rom 15:31; Hbr 3:18; 11:31; in 1Pe 2:8, "disobedient;" so in 1Pe 3:20; in 1Pe 3:1; 4:17, "obey not." In 1Pe 2:7 the best mss. have apisteo, "to disbelieve." See OBEY, B, No. 4, UNBELIEVING.
ThinkOfOne, GB simply asked you to ponder your permanent address for eternity; he is not "pushing his 'faith dogma'" on you or anyone else. Why? Because Christianity cannot be forced on people. Faith alone in Christ alone must be optional.