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Pagan basis of the trinity.

Pagan basis of the trinity.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't see anything against calling an idiot an idiot in that.
It is talking about calling a brother or sister, "You fool" not idiot.
And besides I was not addressing a brother or sister anyway.
Also to say the truth should not be considered an insult, but a help.
But if my understanding should be wrong, I apologize and ask for
forgiveness.
"If my understanding should be wrong..."

Really? Do you really not understand this section of the Sermon? Really? I can explain it, but if you're really not understanding a section as clear as this, from Jesus' lips (if Matthew is to be believed), then you're not understanding not only a great deal of what Jesus says and teaches, but what Matthew proposes is essential in being a disciple and follower of Jesus. If you do not understand a passage as plain as this then I'm skeptical that you'll grasp the basic concept that Jesus is teaching by way of this passage. I'm skeptical as to what you are grasping in the rest of what Jesus is teaching, in this Sermon, in parables, and in his interactions with others as witnessed in any of the Gospels.

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Originally posted by Badwater
"If my understanding should be wrong..."

Really? Do you really not understand this section of the Sermon? Really? I can explain it, but if you're really not understanding a section as clear as this, from Jesus' lips (if Matthew is to be believed), then you're not understanding not only a great deal of what Jesus says and teaches, but what Matthew propose on, in parables, and in his interactions with others as witnessed in any of the Gospels.
You pontificate on and on, but provide no proof that my understanding
is wrong and yours is right. I am waiting............

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Originally posted by Badwater
The "real Jesus" is not to be found in a single verse, or a single Gospel. In fact, it is elusive to be found in the entirety of Biblical writings; be they orthodox, Septuagint, Apocryphal, or Gnostic. If the "real Jesus" were to be found, it would not be so open to wild interpretations that would appear to cover the spectrum of personal belief as opposed to finding a perspective of the "real Jesus" in exegetical or literal form.
Here is ABC News idea of the real or true Jesus from the Islamic and
Christian points of view. Take your pick.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
By the 4th century CE the Trikāya Doctrine had assumed the form that we now know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trikaya

As wikipedia points out it was not until the 4th century CE, that is the same
as AD, not BC. Anyway, it does not matter if it was originated by Satan in
4000 BC it does not have anything to do with the Trinity Doctrine of the
...[text shortened]... ee persons, God the Father,
God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The angels knew the truth.
You really don't read and you keep up copy-pasting material without understanding what exactly we are talking about!

Again: the antecedents of the Mahayana Trikaya doctrine appear in the Pali Canon when Gautama Buddha tells Vasettha that the Tathagata (the Buddha) was "Dharmakaya", the “Truth-body” or the “Embodiment of Truth”, as well as "Dharmabhuta", “Truth-become”, that is, “One who has become Truth” (Digha Nikaya). Thus even before the Buddha's Parinirvana (499/8BC) the term “Dharmakaya” was current, and Dharmakaya without the concept of Trikaya is unconceivable.

Isaiah 6:1-13 is another story; even today it is very common to use a term three times in order to give the maximum emphasis. Also, this basic scheme of repetition is used in all the three abrahamic religions.
In fact, leaving aside the known interpretations from which the differ denominations of the Christian religion emerged, Isaiah never spoke clearly about a Triune God
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Originally posted by galveston75
Robert M. Bowman. Jr. ?????? So who is this guy? A man with an opinion?
lol, i know, like lets offer up incense to an effigy of his image and start chanting his name!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You pontificate on and on, but provide no proof that my understanding
is wrong and yours is right. I am waiting............
you have been found, not only be me, but by others to have transgressed the admonition of the Christ by terming others idiots. It is quite clear as badwater has pointed out. Why are you failing to acknowledge your sin? Keeping it bottled up will not help you RJH, we are counselled to freely confess our sins that we can gain forgiveness and repair our relationship with our God. Are you aware of the consequences of your actions, look at the outcome, you are liable for Ghenna, symbolic of eternal destruction. Its clearly a spiritual deficiency to term others idiots in the way that you have, but it can be sorted, if you would only confess your iniquity.

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Originally posted by black beetle
You really don't read and you keep up copy-pasting material without understanding what exactly we are talking about!

Again: the antecedents of the Mahayana Trikaya doctrine appear in the Pali Canon when Gautama Buddha tells Vasettha that the Tathagata (the Buddha) was "Dharmakaya", the “Truth-body” or the “Embodiment of Truth”, as well as "Dharmabhu ...[text shortened]... tions of the Christian religion emerged, Isaiah never spoke clearly about a Triune God
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The idea of the triune God is throughout the Old Testament and
it was not spoken of clearly until Jesus revealed it. However,
apparently, Trikaya, also was not spoken of clearly until the 4th
century CE. And it is still not clear to me how you see it as a
pagan root to the Christian Trinity, especially since God existed
as a Triune God long before there was a Buddha.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
The idea of the triune God is throughout the Old Testament and
it was not spoken of clearly until Jesus revealed it. However,
apparently, Trikaya, also was not spoken of clearly until the 4th
century CE. And it is still not clear to me how you see it as a
pagan root to the Christian Trinity, especially since God existed
as a Triune God long before there was a Buddha.
Jesus revealed it? And exactly what scripture quotes Jesus explaining the trinity? If he did explain it I hate to say this but he didn't do a very good job of it as even you yourself can't explain it but yet your willing to bet your life on this.
So again show us all the scriptures where Jesus explained this to us!!!!!

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Originally posted by galveston75
Jesus revealed it? And exactly what scripture quotes Jesus explaining the trinity? If he did explain it I hate to say this but he didn't do a very good job of it as even you yourself can't explain it but yet your willing to bet your life on this.
So again show us all the scriptures where Jesus explained this to us!!!!!
I haven't got enough time. But read the Holy Bible, but not the NWT.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I haven't got enough time. But read the Holy Bible, but not the NWT.
Lol. Apparently your still unaware that none, not one, of the scriptures I've pasted on this forum have not been from the NWT. So this obsession you have with the NWT is foolish as the many, many points that I've personally shown you are from many, many translations and probably including yours.
You need to concentrate on the subjects being discussed, prove your thoughts by scripture and get over this NWT phobia you have so deeply ingrained into your brain....

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I haven't got enough time. But read the Holy Bible, but not the NWT.
I have a question for you? Did Jesus perform miricles while he was on earth? Just a simple answer will do....

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Originally posted by galveston75
Lol. Apparently your still unaware that none, not one, of the scriptures I've pasted on this forum have not been from the NWT. So this obsession you have with the NWT is foolish as the many, many points that I've personally shown you are from many, many translations and probably including yours.
You need to concentrate on the subjects being discussed, ...[text shortened]... hts by scripture and get over this NWT phobia you have so deeply ingrained into your brain....
Then are you willing to throw the NWT in the trash and get yourself
a NASB, or even the NKJV will do?

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Originally posted by galveston75
I have a question for you? Did Jesus perform miricles while he was on earth? Just a simple answer will do....
Yes, Jesus did many good works while He was in the likeness of man.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes, Jesus did many good works while He was in the likeness of man.
Was this power or abilty from Jesus himself or from another sourse?

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Originally posted by galveston75
Was this power or abilty from Jesus himself or from another sourse?
Of course, the source is Jesus.

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