Patience is a virtue

Originally posted by @suzianne
.... delay is never beneficial.

This bit of your post isn’t correct, imo.

Sometimes is good to consider a matter over a period of time. I’m sure there is a proverb about that.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Sure it is. A mind which procrastinates gives decent thought to both sides of a debate.
Procrastination is a useful step to understanding our mind and its complexities.

I'm afraid you are going to have to do better than " No. It isn't " to convince me.Lol

I think you may be misunderstanding “procrastination”. Procrastination is a form of laziness born out of the mind’s desire to reprioritise less enjoyable tasks. It’s a bad habit of mine, but I (usually) get away with with because I’m a good “sprinter”.

Doesn’t mean your general thought here is wrong though, just how you view procrastination. Perhaps you are procrastinator who is in denial? 😉

Originally posted by @divegeester
I think you may be misunderstanding “procrastination”. Procrastination is a form of laziness born out of the minds desire to change reprioritise less enjoyable tasks. It’s me of my bad habits but I (usually) get away with with because I’m a good “sprinter”.

I understand well enough.
Procrastination can be a bad thing. Some decisions are easy to make and procrastination is a sign of indecisiveness or an unwillingness to engage.
Most everything in life can be looked as either 'good' or 'bad' . I was taking the positive view to your honest post.

Originally posted by @divegeester
I think you may be misunderstanding “procrastination”. Procrastination is a form of laziness born out of the mind’s desire to reprioritise less enjoyable tasks. It’s a bad habit of mine, but I (usually) get away with with because I’m a good “sprinter”.

Doesn’t mean your general thought here is wrong though, just how you view procrastination. Perhaps you are procrastinator who is in denial? 😉

I have procrastinated on big life decisions. I knew the right thing to do but without procrastination I would not have made my eventual decisions so clearly.

I'm beyond procrastination now but found it a useful process for understanding myself at the time.

Originally posted by @caissad4
I agree. Around 1 1/2 years ago I began a time consuming hobby of hand polishing Indonesian Black Amber. I believe the black on the surface is volcanic in origin. It is also the only black amber known. Slowly removing the black with sandpaper, a toothbrush and toothpaste is time consuming but as a balance is reached between the amber and the black material ...[text shortened]... . Knowledge of patience, understanding of patience, and wisdom of patience is the road. Namaste.

A well demonstrated point.

It's not always the "destination" that's important. But the journey.
Namaste.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
So this is your contribution ?

A fine sentiment indeed. But how would you convince me that you actually know this path?
Does everyone have to walk along the same one?

That is not what I'm saying. Why add assumptions?

Once the path, whichever path is the subject, is known, the entire path, from beginning to end, it's known. Any further delay is useless, and therefore not beneficial. As my grandfather used to say, let's get this show on the road!

Originally posted by @divegeester
This bit of your post isn’t correct, imo.

Sometimes is good to consider a matter over a period of time. I’m sure there is a proverb about that.

Take it together, it's an "if-then". You cannot separate the components and still expect them to support each other.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Take it together, it's an "if-then". You cannot separate the components and still expect them to support each other.

No, your statement “delay is never beneficial” is blatantly incorrect.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Why this saying? I think because if you learn patience then you may learn the other virtues.

Agree? Ideas?

"...when a player, upon system, consumes hours over moves when minutes might suffice, and depends, not upon out-manoeuvring, but out-sitting his antagonist, patience ceases to be a virtue..."

-Howard Staunton, inventor of the chess clock.

Originally posted by @suzianne
That is not what I'm saying. Why add assumptions?

Once the path, whichever path is the subject, is known, the entire path, from beginning to end, it's known. Any further delay is useless, and therefore not beneficial. As my grandfather used to say, let's get this show on the road!

What did I assume? I asked questions

Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
"...when a player, upon system, consumes hours over moves when minutes might suffice, and depends, not upon out-manoeuvring, but out-sitting his antagonist, patience ceases to be a virtue..."

-Howard Staunton, inventor of the chess clock.

🙂

Originally posted by @divegeester
No, your statement “delay is never beneficial” is blatantly incorrect.

That was not my ENTIRE statement.

It's a package deal.

Misquoting is dishonest, and you know that, Mr. Agenda.

Originally posted by @suzianne
That was not my ENTIRE statement.

It's a package deal.

Misquoting is dishonest, and you know that, Mr. Agenda.

Oh I see, so when you said “delay is never beneficial” you meant it to convey another meaning?

Originally posted by @divegeester
Oh I see, so when you said [b]“delay is never beneficial” you meant it to convey another meaning?[/b]

Perhaps she means 'delay is never beneficial except when it is'.

Originally posted by @fmf
Perhaps she means 'delay is never beneficial except when it is'.

NO.

What I meant was "Once the correct path is known, delay is never beneficial."

Oddly enough, this is exactly what I wrote. I know that is an unknown concept for you two, but it is rather common where I come from.

You can even turn it around, which is not always true with statements like this. "Delay is never beneficial, once the correct path is known." Leaving off the qualifier is not only dishonest, but speaks to your own agendas.