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  1. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 02:09
    Why this saying? I think because if you learn patience then you may learn the other virtues.

    Agree? Ideas?
  2. Standard member KellyJayonline
    Walk your Faith
    29 Jun '18 02:11
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Why this saying? I think because if you learn patience then you may learn the other virtues.

    Agree? Ideas?
    I like this, NEVER pray for endurance, you will more than likely be granted trials to learn
    endurance, instead pray for wisdom.
  3. Subscriber WOLFE63
    Fair and Balanced
    29 Jun '18 02:41
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I like this, NEVER pray for endurance, you will more than likely be granted trials to learn
    endurance, instead pray for wisdom.
    Conversely, wisdom can also be obtained by the trials endurance provides.
  4. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    29 Jun '18 02:46
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Why this saying? I think because if you learn patience then you may learn the other virtues.

    Agree? Ideas?
    Being proactive, forcing the pace, escalating, not being waylaid by delays and barriers ~ i.e. the opposite of "patience", perhaps ~ can all be virtues as well.

    So, to update your OP:

    Patience is maybe a virtue, sometimes. And sometimes it's probably not.
  5. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 03:02
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Being proactive, forcing the pace, escalating, not being waylaid by delays and barriers ~ i.e. the opposite of "patience", perhaps ~ can all be virtues as well.

    So, to update your OP:

    Patience is maybe a virtue, sometimes. And sometimes it's probably not.
    "patience is a virtue" is not my saying.
    One can be proactive and be patient . Deciciveness and bluntness are also reflections right-thinking which is learnt through patience ( and other things)
  6. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 03:04
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I like this, NEVER pray for endurance, you will more than likely be granted trials to learn
    endurance, instead pray for wisdom.
    Endurance ?

    Not the same thing as patience .
  7. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    29 Jun '18 03:26
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    "patience is a virtue" is not my saying.
    One can be proactive and be patient . Deciciveness and bluntness are also reflections right-thinking which is learnt through patience ( and other things)
    So, you agree or disagree with what I said?
  8. 29 Jun '18 03:32
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Why this saying? I think because if you learn patience then you may learn the other virtues.

    Agree? Ideas?
    Perhaps if you give and example of what patience means to you within the frame of reference of your OP and we will have a better understand of what you are getting at?
  9. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 04:11
    Originally posted by @fmf
    So, you agree or disagree with what I said?
    I disagree. However I see the point you are making
  10. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 04:13
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Perhaps if you give and example of what patience means to you within the frame of reference of your OP and we will have a better understand of what you are getting at?
    eg. It's hard/impossible to learn other virtues without patience . Like chastity or tolerance
  11. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    29 Jun '18 04:22
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    I disagree. However I see the point you are making
    Disagree with what? I think what I said was about as uncontroversial and as bears-poo-in-the-woods as one can be.

    Patience can be a virtue but it's not always the case.
  12. Standard member caissad4
    Child of the Novelty
    29 Jun '18 04:27
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Why this saying? I think because if you learn patience then you may learn the other virtues.

    Agree? Ideas?
    I agree. Around 1 1/2 years ago I began a time consuming hobby of hand polishing Indonesian Black Amber. I believe the black on the surface is volcanic in origin. It is also the only black amber known. Slowly removing the black with sandpaper, a toothbrush and toothpaste is time consuming but as a balance is reached between the amber and the black material it is quite relaxing and beautiful. Knowledge of patience, understanding of patience, and wisdom of patience is the road. Namaste.
  13. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 04:36
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Disagree with what? I think what I said was about as uncontroversial and as bears-poo-in-the-woods as one can be.

    Patience can be a virtue but it's not always the case.
    I disagree that patience is sometimes not a virtue. Hence the saying
  14. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    29 Jun '18 04:41
    Originally posted by @caissad4
    I agree. Around 1 1/2 years ago I began a time consuming hobby of hand polishing Indonesian Black Amber. I believe the black on the surface is volcanic in origin. It is also the only black amber known. Slowly removing the black with sandpaper, a toothbrush and toothpaste is time consuming but as a balance is reached between the amber and the black material ...[text shortened]... . Knowledge of patience, understanding of patience, and wisdom of patience is the road. Namaste.
    Yes I've been doing woodwork and it is impossible to do a good job without patience .

    BTW 'Namaste' is like an international thing yeah? Well I'll just stick to 'cheers'
    Cheers Darlin'
  15. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    29 Jun '18 04:48
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    I disagree that patience is sometimes not a virtue. Hence the saying
    Sometimes "patience" is inappropriate and the wrong approach to take and therefore not a virtue.