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Originally posted by @secondson
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Originally posted by @secondson
The gospel of Jesus Christ is about His death, burial and resurrection. You'll die in your sins if you don't acknowledge Jesus died for you.
Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection. Not even the disciples knew much about that. The gospel of Jesus Christ is about this:

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
(Matthew 5:3-9 KJV)


Those blessed people who do these things will inherit the Kingdom of God.

People like you who tell people not to bother doing these things will be cast out.


Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection. Not even the disciples knew much about that. The gospel of Jesus Christ is about this:

[i]Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are ...[text shortened]... om of God.

People like you who tell people not to bother doing these things will be cast out.
When was it ever said by anyone not to do those things?
You condemn people for things that only occur in your head.


Originally posted by @rajk999
You really are a dunce. I have repeatedly said that I am a Christian and baptized into Christ.some 45 years ago. However that is not an issue that should arise in a discussion. You like an idiot make these trivialities issues because your understanding of the doctrine of Christ is poor, is wrong and is the road to damnation.
Yet when asked you didn't say Jesus was your Lord.
I have never seen you say that you were a Christian, I believe you when you say you did,
but I have not seen it.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
When was it ever said by anyone not to do those things?
You condemn people for things that only occur in your head.
Your silence on the doctrine of Christ says it all.


Originally posted by @kellyjay
Yet when asked you didn't say Jesus was your Lord.
I have never seen you say that you were a Christian, I believe you when you say you did,
but I have not seen it.
Irrelevant. Not interested


Originally posted by @rajk999
Your silence on the doctrine of Christ says it all.
The doctrine of Christ I'm good with, how you twist scripture not so much.


Originally posted by @rajk999
I offered you no personal information.
Thank you.


Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection. Not even the disciples knew much about that. The gospel of Jesus Christ is about this:

[i]Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are ...[text shortened]... om of God.

People like you who tell people not to bother doing these things will be cast out.
"Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection."

You are such a duplicitous lying ignorant moron. This is why I say you are a phony. You're not a believer or even a follower of Christ as you claim to be.

Matthew 20:17-19
And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them,
Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death,
And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mark 8:31
And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Mark 10:33,34
(Jesus speaking) Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Luke chapters 18 and 24.

Even the Pharisees knew what Jesus had taught when the went to Pilate saying "Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again." Matthew 27:63

You're obviously a bigger liar than the Pharisees that plotted Jesus' death, and no doubt would have been one of those crying "crucify him" had you been there.

You have no credibility at all Nabal.

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Originally posted by @secondson
[b]"Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection."

You are such a duplicitous lying ignorant moron. This is why I say you are a phony. You're not a believer or even a follower of Christ as you claim to be.

Matthew 20:17-19
And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them,
Behold ...[text shortened]... n one of those crying "crucify him" had you been there.

You have no credibility at all Nabal.[/b]
You are a dunce. and this here what you posted is the reason why normal, educated right thinking people who can understand the English language and who have read the bible, will laugh at Christians like you.

In those instances you quoted Jesus is speaking SPECIFICALLY TO THE 12 DISCIPLES, even telling them to tell NOBODY ELSE. These passages are not Jesus preaching the Gospel of eternal life in the Kingdom of God to people. Jesus is telling his disciples ONLY about his death in order to prepare them for their persecution to follow. They still did not believe neither understand. Proof of that is they did not believe He rose from the dead.

When Jesus was preaching about how to get eternal life it was ALWAYS WITHOUT EXCEPTION about good works and righteousness. The judgement is about good works and righteousness.

Nowhere did Jesus ever preach to the many thousands and thousands who heard him that they need to believe in his death and resurrection to get eternal life

That is is a false doctrine of your church. Your interpretation of the Gospel of Christ is a twisted mess of foolishness which will lead to your damnation.


Originally posted by @rajk999
You are a dunce. and this here what you posted is the reason why normal, educated right thinking people who can understand the English language and who have read the bible, will laugh at Christians like you.

In those instances you quoted Jesus is speaking SPECIFICALLY TO THE 12 DISCIPLES, even telling them to tell NOBODY ELSE. These passages are not Jesu ...[text shortened]... tion of the Gospel of Christ is a twisted mess of foolishness which will lead to your damnation.
Everyone's works are going to be judged and rewarded for that; however, if your name is
not in the book of life no matter what you have done in your life you will not enter into the
Kingdom of God. Think back to the sheep and goats, they were sorted before the works
were judged, Jesus' sheep know His voice. He knows His own, He leads us here and
now it isn't something we are waiting to do in the Kingdom to come. He gives us His Spirit
in the here and now, not the by and by.

John 10:4-6 English Standard Version (ESV)
4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 This figure of speech Jesus used with them, but they did not understand what he was saying to them.


Originally posted by @rajk999
You are a dunce. and this here what you posted is the reason why normal, educated right thinking people who can understand the English language and who have read the bible, will laugh at Christians like you.

In those instances you quoted Jesus is speaking SPECIFICALLY TO THE 12 DISCIPLES, even telling them to tell NOBODY ELSE. These passages are not Jesu ...[text shortened]... tion of the Gospel of Christ is a twisted mess of foolishness which will lead to your damnation.
If Jesus told a truth to 12 it is truth, if He told it to 1000's it is still truth, truth isn't judged
good or bad by how many people were told it, it is what it is.

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Originally posted by @whodey
Psalm 51:5 ESV / 246 helpful votes

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.


Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV / 175 helpful votes

Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.


Psalm 58:3 ESV / 171 helpful votes

The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from b ...[text shortened]... 16 helpful votes

“Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor sha...
Something to ponder. We were created to be in the likeness of God, to be an image
bearer of the most high. When Adam fell that was no longer possible since sin entered
into the human race. Now God is good, and I say that in the most intent way I can there
is nothing about Him that isn't good, holy, righteous, and just. That is the standard by
which we were to live, and the one we no longer are able to on our own, so we are not
basically good, we are corrupt through and through.

The salvation of Jesus won for us, restored our standing with God in Christ, we can once
again be in His likeness as we crucify our selves to live for Him, Christ in us our hope.

When we bite and devour one another, is this us acting in our flesh, acting on our carnal
desires, when we lay aside our sinful desire and crucify our flesh for the life of God
following God's Spirit we will do the works of God.

Genesis 1:
26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
27
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.


Originally posted by @rajk999
You are a dunce. and this here what you posted is the reason why normal, educated right thinking people who can understand the English language and who have read the bible, will laugh at Christians like you.

In those instances you quoted Jesus is speaking SPECIFICALLY TO THE 12 DISCIPLES, even telling them to tell NOBODY ELSE. These passages are not Jesu ...[text shortened]... tion of the Gospel of Christ is a twisted mess of foolishness which will lead to your damnation.
You said, "Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection."

Now you're going to spew nonsense to try and cover your ignorant hypocritical ars.

You have no credibility at all.


Originally posted by @secondson
You said, [b]"Jesus preached nothing about His death, burial and resurrection."

Now you're going to spew nonsense to try and cover your ignorant hypocritical ars.

You have no credibility at all.[/b]
If you sit and think you will know that your church doctrine is in error. If you have any desire to enter the Kingdom of God you will preach the right thing to others, instead of telling people stuff that Jesus never said was necessary.

Jesus's discussions to his disciples was not preaching about the Kingdom of God. In fact there were many times during these private discussions Jesus told them not to tell anyone that he was the Christ. When Jesus sent out the disciples preach he told them nothing about his death and resurrection.

Jesus's preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, were to the masses, the crowds and the thousands who followed Him and who were baptized. Nothing was ever said to them about his death and resurrection .. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. All of Jesus preaching was warning them to live righteously and to do good works. Something Christians like you never ever do.

You need to have a look at what you believe because it is not of Christ.

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