Pledge of Allegiance

Originally posted by Ironstar
Why don't you?

I thought you were a Christian. "My kingdom is not of this world."

Originally posted by lucifershammer
Pharmacists refusing to dispense abortifacients and adoption agencies refusing to place children with same-sex couples.

EDIT: Perhaps, some day, ministers refusing to marry same-sex couples.

EDIT2: Not directly, but religious agencies who refuse to provide medical insurance coverage for procedures like abortion.

EDIT: Perhaps, some day, ministers refusing to marry same-sex couples.

Can you say “church-state separation”? 🙂 Under what circumstances, if any, would you support the state telling clergy of any religion who they may/may not marry?

Originally posted by kirksey957
I thought you were a Christian. "My kingdom is not of this world."

Didn't mean it like that.....
The Christian people should never separate themselves from the world...How then will people get saved?

Originally posted by Ironstar
Didn't mean it like that.....
The Christian people should never separate themselves from the world...How then will people get saved?

For you, what does "one nation under God" mean?

Originally posted by kirksey957
For you, what does "one nation under God" mean?

"One nation, under the authority and protection of God". We've lasted this long and God has blessed us immensely as a country, probably because we accept his authority over us.

Originally posted by Ironstar
"One nation, under the authority and protection of God". We've lasted this long and God has blessed us immensely as a country, probably because we accept his authority over us.

So things like posting the Ten Commandments in public places like court houses would also represent God's authority over us?

Originally posted by Ironstar
"One nation, under the authority and protection of God". We've lasted this long and God has blessed us immensely as a country, probably because we accept his authority over us.

We didn't "accept his authority" until 1954. We should never have tied the Pledge of Allegiance to religion.

Originally posted by Ironstar
"One nation, under the authority and protection of God". We've lasted this long and God has blessed us immensely as a country, probably because we accept his authority over us.

What a load of crap. Many Muslim countries have lasted many many times longer than the US has existed. Does that mean that Allah is more true than the Christian God? By your logic it sure does.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
What a load of crap. Many Muslim countries have lasted many many times longer than the US has existed. Does that mean that Allah is more true than the Christian God? By your logic it sure does.

Yes, but the US has running water, air conditioning and breast implants.

Originally posted by kirksey957
Yes, but the US has running water, air conditioning and breast implants.

And therefore blessed by God...

Originally posted by Nemesio
And therefore blessed by God...

OK, seriously, I think the biblical injunction has to do with obedience, mercy, and justice. "What does the Lord require?" It does not say anything about posting pledges or reciting empty words.

Originally posted by kirksey957
Yes, but the US has running water, air conditioning and breast implants.

So does Japan. The Christian population of Japan is only around 1%.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
So does Japan. The Christian population of Japan is only around 1%.

Japan is still lacking in breast implants, IMHO.

Originally posted by kirksey957
OK, seriously, I think the biblical injunction has to do with obedience, mercy, and justice. "What does the Lord require?" It does not say anything about posting pledges or reciting empty words.

I'd have to think about it...but I'm not sure I was kidding 😀

So if the Americans would change the Pledge of Allegiance back to the original version, God would punish them by giving them fewer breast implants. Did I get this right? It makes sense, because before the words "under God" were added, breast implants were not available.