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Originally posted by @secondsonHaha. Cornered by ToO
Because, unlike you, I don't project into the narrative of scripture a presupposition that is contrary to the text.
Originally posted by @secondsonHaha. Cornered by ToO
Because, unlike you, I don't project into the narrative of scripture a presupposition that is contrary to the text.
Originally posted by @secondsonActually that's exactly what you do.
Because, unlike you, I don't project into the narrative of scripture a presupposition that is contrary to the text.
Originally posted by @secondsonThe doctrine of cherry-picking mouth-worshipers.
I certainly do.
Romans 10:8&9
But what saith it? [hidden] verse 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise,..[/hidden] The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath r ...[text shortened]... sed him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
I'm reasonably certain divegeester believes that.
Originally posted by @secondsonI am sure you do. Everyone does. The bible says anything we want.
Because, unlike you, I don't project into the narrative of scripture a presupposition that is contrary to the text.
Originally posted by @secondsonYou sincerely believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and that you are, therefore, "saved", and divegeester believes sincerely ~ "watered-down view" or not ~ that God raised Jesus from the dead and that this means he (divegeester) is therefore "saved". Both "saved", right? If not, what's the difference between you in terms of being "saved"?
From what I've heard and read of divegeester it appears he has a watered-down view of the scriptures. I don't think divegeester really believes what the Bible says when it doesn't correspond with his own perceptions of reality.
Originally posted by @fmfMaybe you do no tlike it but it is entirely relevant to what extent Christianity is believed in by a person. It weakens the internal organization and religion if we have people that do not believe in the whole fo it but merely cherry pick it.
You sincerely believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and that you are, therefore, "saved", and divegeester believes sincerely ~ "watered-down view" or not ~ that God raised Jesus from the dead and that this means he (divegeester) is therefore "saved". Both "saved", right? If not, what's the difference between you in terms of being "saved"?
Originally posted by @philokaliaExactly as I responded to it in my OP had you bothered to read it.
The Vatican released a statement that said that this was just what the journalist said based off of unofficial conversations. It cannot be considered to be a direct quotation. Basically, the Vatican denounced what was said there.
How do you respond to that, Dive?
Originally posted by @philokaliaThis stuff you've typed does not address the question I put to SecondSon about what he thinks it takes to be "saved".
Maybe you do no tlike it but it is entirely relevant to what extent Christianity is believed in by a person. It weakens the internal organization and religion if we have people that do not believe in the whole fo it but merely cherry pick it.
I am curious as to why you are White Knighting for Dive.
Originally posted by @philokaliaI’m saved through faith, secondson is saved through faith, you are presumably saved through faith...so what does it matter if I believe something different to you in terms of me being a Christian?
Maybe you do no tlike it but it is entirely relevant to what extent Christianity is believed in by a person. It weakens the internal organization and religion if we have people that do not believe in the whole fo it but merely cherry pick it.
I am curious as to why you are White Knighting for Dive.
Originally posted by @divegeesterHaha. Was not.
Haha. Cornered by ToO
Originally posted by @rajk999By thinking you can add anything to the cross of Christ for salvation makes you a legalist. Paul would call you a judaizer. Jesus would call you a white washed tomb.
The doctrine of cherry-picking mouth-worshipers.
Cherry-picking because you conveniently ignore all the times the very same Paul said to these bornagain Christian Saints in Chrsit who have the Holy Spirit that they are saved BUT if they do not live righteously they will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Clearly you do not understand what the word SAVED mea ...[text shortened]... will still enter the Kingdom of God
Not so said Paul. Read the Bible and stop cherrypicking.
Originally posted by @secondsonLeviticus 25
Haha. Was not.
ThinkOfOne says the verses in Leviticus 25:44-46 means that God condones slavery.
They do not. ThinkOfOne's exegesis is flawed in one major respect. The chapter is a direct quote of God instructing the Jews concerning slavery. By inferring that God condones slavery, by saying God is "depicted" as condoning slavery, ThinkOfOne is sayin ...[text shortened]... and the mistreatment of human beings by human beings.
Nothing can be further from the truth.
Originally posted by @thinkofone"Though most refuse to admit it, they pick and choose the verses and passages that support their beliefs and dismiss those that don't and often do so in a most disingenuous manner... Those who claim that they do not pick and choose are disingenuous at best."
Leviticus 25
44“ ‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them sla ...[text shortened]... hoose are disingenuous at best. >>
SecondSon repeatedly shows himself to be a prime example.