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Spirituality

Spirituality

  1. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    10 Apr '16 05:34
    Is it immoral and why/why not.

    Personally I think it is a perfectly sound way to live.
  2. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    10 Apr '16 06:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Is it immoral and why/why not.

    Personally I think it is a perfectly sound way to live.
    The only moral issues surrounding sex, to my way of thinking, are whether there is consent - informed consent - whether there is deception or false pretenses - whether there is coercion (such as emotional blackmail or where a partner's weaknesses or vulnerabilities are exploited) - whether diseases are willfully or knowingly or negligently passed on - and whether responsibility is taken for any consequences of the sexual relationship. If I think of anything else I will add it later; same goes if anyone else thinks of something I omitted or suggests something I haven't thought of before.
  3. 10 Apr '16 06:38 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Is it immoral and why/why not.

    Personally I think it is a perfectly sound way to live.
    Do you encourage you daughters to indulge in this perfectly sound philosophy? From what age did you feel it appropriate for them to be promiscuous?
  4. 10 Apr '16 07:07
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Do you encourage you daughters to indulge in this perfectly sound philosophy? From what age did you feel it appropriate for them to be promiscuous?
    Is it a less sound philosophy for women than men?
  5. 10 Apr '16 07:16
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Is it a less sound philosophy for women than men?
    I haven't said it is sound or unsound. you could, like me, ask wolfgang59.
  6. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    10 Apr '16 07:22
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Is it immoral and why/why not.

    Personally I think it is a perfectly sound way to live.
    If done safely, responsibly and legally, then go for it. (Personally speaking, marriage or a committed relationship is a game changer to promiscuity).
  7. 10 Apr '16 07:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I haven't said it is sound or unsound. you could, like me, ask wolfgang59.
    You have hinted that he would have a problem with his daughters using the philosophy but not his sons.
  8. 10 Apr '16 07:27
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    If done safely, responsibly and legally, then go for it. (Personally speaking, marriage or a committed relationship is a game changer to promiscuity).
    I agree. The immorality is not the sex but breaking any commitments we might have made to someone else and the fact that breaking said commitments can bring a lot of pain to them.
  9. Standard member Grampy Bobby
    Boston Lad
    10 Apr '16 07:31
    Originally posted by wolfgang59 (OP)
    Is it immoral and why/why not.

    Personally I think it is a perfectly sound way to live.
    Why?
  10. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    10 Apr '16 07:36
    I think any activity affecting others is, by default, morally sound - or at least morally neutral - until it can be seen, felt, or shown that it involves some degree of immorality.
  11. 10 Apr '16 07:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You have hinted that he would have a problem with he daughters using the philosophy but not his sons.
    I've created a scenario in order to discuss the premise that promiscuity is a sound philosophy. The scenario I've chosen is a father's daughters. If you don't think fathers are more sensitive and protective over their daughters sexual habits than they are over their sons sexual habits that is only of interest if Wolfgang59 agrees with you and struggles with the scenario I put to him and in which case we can modify the scenario so that he can imagine his sons being promiscuous or perhaps generalise the whole thing to his children being promiscuous.
  12. 10 Apr '16 07:43
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    If done safely, responsibly and legally, then go for it. (Personally speaking, marriage or a committed relationship is a game changer to promiscuity).
    How, and importantly, why was marriage a "game changer" for you personally, in terms of your promiscuity?
  13. 10 Apr '16 07:46 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    I think any activity affecting others is, by default, morally sound - or at least morally neutral - until it can be seen, felt, or shown that it involves some degree of immorality.
    There probably/possibly two aspects to this discussion; morality and social practicality/benefit.
  14. 10 Apr '16 07:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You have hinted that he would have a problem with he daughters using the philosophy but not his sons.
    To be clear, I see absolutely no 'moral' difference between males and females when it comes to promiscuity.
  15. 10 Apr '16 08:00
    Originally posted by divegeester
    To be clear, I see absolutely no 'moral' difference between males and females when it comes to promiscuity.
    And what is you opinion on the morality of promiscuity?