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    The most beautiful and inspiring one in the Bible.

    I wake up every morning and read it, and after that I know that my
    faith is not only one of love but also one of confidence and strength.

    Needless to say, the walk from home to work is one of might and joy!

    What does it mean to you?
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    03 Mar '07 17:51
    Originally posted by Seitse
    The most beautiful and inspiring one in the Bible.

    I wake up every morning and read it, and after that I know that my
    faith is not only one of love but also one of confidence and strength.

    Needless to say, the walk from home to work is one of might and joy!

    What does it mean to you?
    I hope you will find this verse to be as inspiring. I believe it to be more applicable to the age we live in. Tell me what you think of it.

    2 Corinthians 4:6-11
    6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
    7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
    8 ¶ We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
    9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
    10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
    11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
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    03 Mar '07 18:54
    Originally posted by Seitse
    The most beautiful and inspiring one in the Bible.

    I wake up every morning and read it, and after that I know that my
    faith is not only one of love but also one of confidence and strength.

    Needless to say, the walk from home to work is one of might and joy!

    What does it mean to you?
    Gen 15:1
    1 Some time later, Abram had a vision. The Lord said to him,
    "Abram, do not be afraid.
    I am like a shield to you.
    I am your very great reward."

    This has always been my favorite.
    Kelly
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    I think one of the most inspiring peices of scripture for me is when Shadrack, Meshak, and Obendigo were about to be thrown into a firey furnace by Nebecadnezzar in Daniel. They were being killed because they refused to bow to the gods of Babylon and the king became enraged. Their response to him was something to the effect that they would not bow to his gods because they serve the only true God. They said that he has the power to delevier them but "IF NOT", for whatever reason, they would still not bow to their gods. For me, this is what it takes to stand in faith. All we can do is stand on what God has commanded us to do and let him take care of the rest even if it means we loose our life in the process.
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    03 Mar '07 20:51
    Originally posted by whodey
    I think one of the most inspiring peices of scripture for me is when Shadrack, Meshak, and Obendigo were about to be thrown into a firey furnace by Nebecadnezzar in Daniel. They were being killed because they refused to bow to the gods of Babylon and the king became enraged. Their response to him was something to the effect that they would not bow to his go ...[text shortened]... us to do and let him take care of the rest even if it means we loose our life in the process.
    I agree.
    Kelly
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    04 Mar '07 10:35
    I like a lot all of your favorites' indeed. I think this arises the question
    of Christianity as a faith of endurance or struggle; in your views, is it
    a 'fighting' or a 'resistance' faith?

    Of course, when I say fighting I mean in the spiritual level.

    I used to be a 'estoic-like' believer but as the years passed my
    praying, for example, became more agressive and straighforward.
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    04 Mar '07 18:53
    Originally posted by Seitse
    I like a lot all of your favorites' indeed. I think this arises the question
    of Christianity as a faith of endurance or struggle; in your views, is it
    a 'fighting' or a 'resistance' faith?

    Of course, when I say fighting I mean in the spiritual level.

    I used to be a 'estoic-like' believer but as the years passed my
    praying, for example, became more agressive and straighforward.
    Yes.

    Does that answer your question?
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    04 Mar '07 21:02
    Originally posted by whodey
    Yes.

    Does that answer your question?
    Yes what?
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    05 Mar '07 01:371 edit
    Interesting. Psalms is an OT book, but this sounds like something that would have been said only after Jesus:

    56:13 For thou hast delivered my soul from death: wilt not thou deliver my feet from falling, that I may walk before God in the light of the living?

    What does this mean? It's written in past tense, but Jesus was still in the future.
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    05 Mar '07 01:431 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Yes what?
    It is both a fighting as well as a resistance faith.
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    05 Mar '07 01:45
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Interesting. Psalms is an OT book, but this sounds like something that would have been said only after Jesus:

    56:13 [b]For thou hast delivered my soul from death
    : wilt not thou deliver my feet from falling, that I may walk before God in the light of the living?

    What does this mean? It's written in past tense, but Jesus was still in the future.[/b]
    That is what we Christians call a prophetic word.
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    05 Mar '07 02:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    That is what we Christians call a prophetic word.
    Prophecy is prediction, which should be future tense. That explanation doesn't work unless you really, really want to believe it - or the translation I was reading is not a good one.

    I find Christians are often so lax with what they call "prophecy" that the prophecies are meaningless.
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    that one in the movie pulp fiction was cool
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    05 Mar '07 03:01
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Prophecy is prediction, which should be future tense. That explanation doesn't work unless you really, really want to believe it - or the translation I was reading is not a good one.

    I find Christians are often so lax with what they call "prophecy" that the prophecies are meaningless.
    Granted, some prophecies may seem more obscure than others, however, what about prophesies such as Isaiah 53? Prophesies that are painfully obvious such as this one get the same treatement by those who don't believe.
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    05 Mar '07 03:21
    Originally posted by whodey
    Granted, some prophecies may seem more obscure than others, however, what about prophesies such as Isaiah 53? Prophesies that are painfully obvious such as this one get the same treatement by those who don't believe.
    There's prophecy there? I don't see it. Please elaborate. There are all kinds of tenses being used as far as I can tell. 53:2 He shall grow up...; 53:3 He is despised... we hid...he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
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