Punishment

Originally posted by FMF
Are you asking me if I would feel I had the right to - say, for example - torture human beings for eternity for not believing I existed? Answer: no. It seems repugnant and grotesque. I created my children: I do not have the right to torture them or murder them or put head-exploding fungus in them.

No I think you misunderstood, I did not mean if you conceived a child. If you were God and you created us, upon what moral grounds could you as God, not decide the fate of your creation?

Originally posted by FMF
In order to justify the punishment.

What gave you the impression that ants were punished?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
No I think you misunderstood, I did not mean if you conceived a child. If you were God and you created us, upon what moral grounds could you as God, not decide our fate?

No I have not misunderstood. I have already answered this question. The additional comment about my children simply served to illustrate my moral thinking.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What gave you the impression that ants were punished?

KellyJay's comments. Take it up with him.

Originally posted by FMF
No I have not misunderstood. I have already answered this question. The additional comment about my children simply served to illustrate my moral thinking.

Ok so based upon the subjective moral opinions of FMF, God's actions would be grotesque if he decided the fate of his creation, I get that. From my perspective, God, the author and sustainer of life, can give it and take it as he sees fit in his infinite wisdom.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Ok so based upon the subjective moral opinions of FMF, God's actions would be grotesque if he decided the fate of his creation, I get that.

Whose moral opinions were you asking me about if not mine?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
From my perspective, God, the author and sustainer of life, can give it and take it as he sees fit in his infinite wisdom.

Well, I have told you before that I think your moral compass is compromised if not broken altogether. Your's is a moral prism resembling that of gangsterism.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Ok so based upon the subjective moral opinions of FMF, God's actions would be grotesque if he decided the fate of his creation, I get that. From my perspective, God, the author and sustainer of life, can give it and take it as he sees fit in his infinite wisdom.

Are you suggesting that what you imagine you would do if you were God is somehow not a "subjective moral opinion", while what I imagine is?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If you had the power and the knowledge to 'create your own creation', would you not have the right to decide their fate?

No.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
No.

Why not?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Why not?

I'm not a control freak and feel morally accountable for my actions.

You?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I'm not a control freak and feel morally accountable for my actions.

You?

The "right to" was the question! Do you think others should not be allowed to do with what they will with what they created?

Originally posted by FMF
Well, I have told you before that I think your moral compass is compromised if not broken altogether. Your's is a moral prism resembling that of gangsterism.

So FMFs moral compass is the only one that is working properly and anyone who disagrees with him has a moral compass that is compromised or broken, is that correct?

Originally posted by FMF
How are your words an answer to "What were the ants guilty of?"

Well obviously "ants" wasn't meant to be taken literally...he was referring to all species of crawling insects.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
No.

Who would then?