Originally posted by @romans1009Does your question imply that not believing Jesus is God disqualifies one from being a Christian?
A better question, perhaps, would be: Are Jehovah’s Witnesses, who reject the deity of Jesus Christ, actually Christians?
What say you, Heartpence?
People seem annoyed at me for repeating these sort of questions, but your post seems to prove that deep down, Christians stick their noses up at other 'Christians' who believe something different.
What is a Christian?
A real Christian?
Originally posted by @chaney3I like Billy Graham’s position, that what unites Christians is believing Jesus Christ was the Son of God, was sacrificed for the sins of the world and was Resurrected.
Does your question imply that not believing Jesus is God disqualifies one from being a Christian?
People seem annoyed at me for repeating these sort of questions, but your post seems to prove that deep down, Christians stick their noses up at other 'Christians' who believe something different.
What is a Christian?
A real Christian?
I think those elements are essential to the definition of a Christian.
Originally posted by @chaney3I asked you a while back who Jesus was to you - a mortal man, an angel, God in the flesh or something else.
Does your question imply that not believing Jesus is God disqualifies one from being a Christian?
People seem annoyed at me for repeating these sort of questions, but your post seems to prove that deep down, Christians stick their noses up at other 'Christians' who believe something different.
What is a Christian?
A real Christian?
Do you plan on responding at some point?
Originally posted by @romans1009Oh no, now I tell them "fck off" and slam the door in their face.
Well, you just have to take it. Be polite, and if they want to spend six hours talking your ears off, you just have to sit there and take it.
Originally posted by @rajk999I'll tell them this first THEN to go fkk off.
I have a JW church not to far from me so they frequent this village often. How I have dealt with them is to ask them several questions before they start on their rant to convert me:
- do you know that Charles Russel was a fraudster?
- how many false predictions of the return of Christ have the Watchtower made in the last 100 years?
- do you know that yo ...[text shortened]... sexual misconduct or covering up sexual misconduct ?
They usually leave shaking their heads.
Originally posted by @vivifyThat’s totally rude. Instead, you should offer them beverages and if they’re not done talking after six or seven hours, invite them to spend the night.
Oh no, now I tell them "fck off" and slam the door in their face.
They get the bed - you get the floor.
And in the morning, wake up early and make them breakfast. And if they want to keep talking after breakfast, why you just sit there and listen.
Originally posted by @romans1009The last time a couple JW's knocked on my door, I ended up arguing with them. They (well, she, with an apparent trainee) posed a question, "Who is in control of everything?" I replied, "God." Oh they had me then. "No, that's wrong. The devil is in control of everything we see. He rules the Earth." So, I politely explained that as far as I'm concerned, God is in full control. Yes, the devil is said to be the ruler of "the world," but that means he has influence over people OF this world. Christians are not of this world. GOD is in control. There is nothing beyond, or out of his control.
That’s totally rude. Instead, you should offer them beverages and if they’re not done talking after six or seven hours, invite them to spend the night.
They get the bed - you get the floor.
And in the morning, wake up early and make them breakfast. And if they want to keep talking after breakfast, why you just sit there and listen.
They went on to recommend I come to their church and learn, and I asked for a pamphlet and sent them on their way. The pamphlet was appropriately and immediately filed in the kitchen trashcan.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWe can think of it a bit in the Penn Gillette style and say that if someone believes that you are going to go to hell for not believing in their God, wouldn't they be a jerk if they did not try to get you to convert?
In 2002, a British woman was so annoyed by Jehovah Witnesses repeatedly knocking on her door, she waited until they were holding a service, then started pounding on the front doors of their church. Then, she tried to get them to change religions. After about a half-hour, she was forced to leave.
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When it c ...[text shortened]... , how pushy should a Christian be pushing? Is it okay to bring religion to someone's front door?
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI have always rather enjoyed my interaction with JWs in the real world and have not found it overly intrusive or overbearing. I befriended a JW couple when I was living in Japan and had lunch a couple of times as Deny's.
In 2002, a British woman was so annoyed by Jehovah Witnesses repeatedly knocking on her door, she waited until they were holding a service, then started pounding on the front doors of their church. Then, she tried to get them to change religions. After about a half-hour, she was forced to leave.
I knew a JW couple in Britain too - although the friendship grew deeper after they got disfellowshipped - they [and their children] were both ostracized and bullied for ages after they left the organization.
I had a few long talks with a couple who came round sometimes when I lived in Australia but they were not well equipped to do much more than regurgitate what they had to say and weren't much good at adapting it to the intricacies of conversing on it.
Originally posted by @fmf<<I had a few long talks with a couple who came round sometimes when I lived in Australia but they were not well equipped to do much more than regurgitate what they had to say and weren't much good at adapting it to the intricacies of conversing on it.>>
I have always rather enjoyed my interaction with JWs in the real world and have not found it overly intrusive or overbearing. I befriended a JW couple when I was living in Japan and had lunch a couple of times as Deny's.
I knew a JW couple in Britain too - although the friendship grew deeper after they got disfellowshipped - they [and their children] were b ...[text shortened]... hat they had to say and weren't much good at adapting it to the intricacies of conversing on it.
Maybe they didn’t feel like answering a zillion rapid-fire questions and just wanted to enjoy their lunch in peace.
Originally posted by @fmfUnfortunately, my own 'real life' interactions with JWs haven't been quite so pleasant.
I have always rather enjoyed my interaction with JWs in the real world and have not found it overly intrusive or overbearing. I befriended a JW couple when I was living in Japan and had lunch a couple of times as Deny's.
I knew a JW couple in Britain too - although the friendship grew deeper after they got disfellowshipped - they [and their children] were b ...[text shortened]... hat they had to say and weren't much good at adapting it to the intricacies of conversing on it.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeInteractions with robbie carrobie, it has to be said, were not always so pleasant. He was deeply spiteful, infantile, and bizarrely repetitive ~ ad nauseam ~ with his odious little flogged-to-death catchphrases and buzzword insults.
Unfortunately, my own 'real life' interactions with JWs haven't been quite so pleasant.
Originally posted by @fmfHow is that on topic? Did anybody ASK you to tell us some silly anecdote about yourself?
I have always rather enjoyed my interaction with JWs in the real world and have not found it overly intrusive or overbearing. I befriended a JW couple when I was living in Japan and had lunch a couple of times as Deny's.
I knew a JW couple in Britain too - although the friendship grew deeper after they got disfellowshipped - they [and their children] were b ...[text shortened]... hat they had to say and weren't much good at adapting it to the intricacies of conversing on it.
Originally posted by @philokaliaThe topic is "Pushy Christians". Someone had the JWs in their sights, as well they might. However, I had a 'counter-anecdote', so to speak. Door-to-door "pushy" JWs get a bad rap, understandably so. But it's not the whole story. Not in my experience. Seems to me that was worth adding to the discussion.
How is that on topic? Did anybody ASK you to tell us some silly anecdote about yourself?
