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    07 Apr '07 15:39
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Answer: True. Essentially this means that things eventially "wear out." The universe is not eternal; it had a beginning, and will eventually wear out. Two-and-a-half-tohousand years before the birth of modern science, when the brightest thinkers were confident that the universe was eternal, the Bible said that the universe would "wear out:"...the heavens are ...[text shortened]... They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment" (psalm 102:25,26).
    Why do you need the bible to back this idea up?
    It's totally redundant in this sense, the science is quite clear on this, backed up with empirical evidence, your bible quote has no such thing.
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    07 Apr '07 15:43
    5. What are Buckminsterfullerenes?
    A. a collective name for all the digestive organs in a white tailed deer.
    B. a form of carbon shaped like a soccer ball.
    C. a group of inhibitors capable of turning off certain genes.
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    This thread rules.
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    07 Apr '07 21:39
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Answer: False. The DNA in bananas is 50% similar to human DNA, but no one would speculate that we are "half a banana." Although the field of comparative genetics has revealed some interesting facts about the similarities (and differences) of DNA among different species, it says nothing about the origin of our DNA or the historical relationship between species.
    Yes but if you found out you really were half of a banana would you eat yourself?
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    07 Apr '07 22:04
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Answer: False. The DNA in bananas is 50% similar to human DNA, but no one would speculate that we are "half a banana." Although the field of comparative genetics has revealed some interesting facts about the similarities (and differences) of DNA among different species, it says nothing about the origin of our DNA or the historical relationship between species.
    Yes. I would speculate that we are indeed "half a banana". We have a very old common ancestor with bananas.

    Your point, oh master of pointless drivel?
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    07 Apr '07 22:05
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    2. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
    The egg. Reptiles and amphibians had eggs long before there were chickens.
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    07 Apr '07 22:09
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    3. Fill in the blank. Respected evolutionist, David Kitts, said, "Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of 'seeing' evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists the most nasty difficulties for evolutionists the notorious of which is the presence of 'gaps' in the fossil record. Evolution requires_________ betwee ...[text shortened]... t provide them."
    A. missing links.
    B. much more fossil evidence.
    C. intermediate forms.
    If he gave any of those answers, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

    Of course, you haven't stipulated that he said it in 1974! 30 years ago. And a lot has changed in evolutionary biology in that time.

    For example, we've found 7 transitional land to sea dwelling whale "transitional forms".
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    07 Apr '07 22:11
    Originally posted by josephw
    D. make believe evidence
    You didn't watch the link to the movie I sent you, apparently.

    I'm disappointed Joseph, I actually thought you wanted to approach this with an open mind and actually learn something.
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    07 Apr '07 22:11
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Answer: The Chicken--"And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that it may fly above the earth after its kind." [Genesis 1:20]
    Prove it with fossil evidence then.
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    07 Apr '07 22:13
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Answer: True. Essentially this means that things eventially "wear out." The universe is not eternal; it had a beginning, and will eventually wear out. Two-and-a-half-tohousand years before the birth of modern science, when the brightest thinkers were confident that the universe was eternal, the Bible said that the universe would "wear out:"...the heavens are ...[text shortened]... They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment" (psalm 102:25,26).
    And your point is?

    Perhaps, like dj2becker, you believe that things cannot become more complex through time. Maybe you believe that plants can't grow, children don't grow up, and water cannot be pumped up hill.
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    07 Apr '07 22:14
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    5. What are Buckminsterfullerenes?
    A. a collective name for all the digestive organs in a white tailed deer.
    B. a form of carbon shaped like a soccer ball.
    C. a group of inhibitors capable of turning off certain genes.
    B. So what?
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    07 Apr '07 22:14
    Originally posted by whodey
    Yes but if you found out you really were half of a banana would you eat yourself?
    No. Would you? I might eat the banana though.
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    07 Apr '07 22:54
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    We have a very old common ancestor with bananas.
    Precisely. I wonder why this is so confusing to people. We are closer
    relatives to chimps and thus we have more DNA in common.

    If genome mapping were easy (as in, didn't take a super-long time),
    it would be really neat to map how related all living things were -- how
    closely related spiders were to crabs, say, or salamanders to geckos,
    or those ancient dead proto-horses to modern ones.

    Such relationships would illustrate so very clearly the DNA relatedness
    of various organisms to add (even more) evidence to the evolutionary
    claim.

    Nemesio
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    07 Apr '07 23:062 edits
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    Precisely. I wonder why this is so confusing to people. We are closer
    relatives to chimps and thus we have more DNA in common.

    If genome mapping were easy (as in, didn't take a super-long time),
    it would be really neat to map how related all living things were -- how
    closely related spiders were to crabs, say, or salamanders to geckos,
    or those a ...[text shortened]... dness
    of various organisms to add (even more) evidence to the evolutionary
    claim.

    Nemesio
    We can! It's called cladistics (or phyllogenetics). Normally, it's done on one (or several) particular genes, but it can be done on whole genomes, if you have the info.

    Often, info from several genes will link up to give very close or perfect trees.

    [edit; a brief wiki article on the subject
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_tree]
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    08 Apr '07 05:01
    Originally posted by Nemesio


    If genome mapping were easy (as in, didn't take a super-long time),
    it would be really neat to map how related all living things were -- how
    closely related spiders were to crabs, say, or salamanders to geckos,
    or those ancient dead proto-horses to modern ones.

    Such relationships would illustrate so very clearly the DNA relatedness
    of various organisms to add (even more) evidence to the evolutionary
    claim.

    Nemesio
    There is a very good popular science book called The Ancestor's Tale that does this very thing.
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