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If I let a kettle of water reach boiling point and then walk away for an hour I find that when I come back to it, the water that was previously scalding hot has gone freezing cold.
My question to you
given that we must not allow for small incremental changes over time - a.k.a. your stance on evolution
, is ...
What causes all those excited, and free to move particles to suddenly clump up together really close and just stand there wiggling a bit - how come they all copy each other? (the probability of that happening due to sheer chance is, as you'll surely agree, breathtakingly small!!!) What is causing this instantaneous change from hot to cold!???
Has there ever been any recorded instance where, just left there minding it's own business for a while, scalding hot water suddenly takes it upon itself to become fricking freezing!??
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02 Mar 15
Originally posted by AgergMany are cold, but few are frozen.
If I let a kettle of water reach boiling point and then walk away for an hour I find that when I come back to it, the water that was previously scalding hot has gone freezing cold.
My question to you[hidden]given that we must not allow for small incremental changes over time - a.k.a. your stance on evolution[/hidden], is ...
What causes all those excited, ...[text shortened]... ess for a while, scalding hot water suddenly takes it upon itself to become fricking freezing!??
02 Mar 15
Originally posted by AgergI suppose that depends on where you left the boiling hot water, since
If I let a kettle of water reach boiling point and then walk away for an hour I find that when I come back to it, the water that was previously scalding hot has gone freezing cold.
My question to you[hidden]given that we must not allow for small incremental changes over time - a.k.a. your stance on evolution[/hidden], is ...
What causes all those excited, ...[text shortened]... ess for a while, scalding hot water suddenly takes it upon itself to become fricking freezing!??
hot water freezes faster than cold or room. If you were in the Midwest
during a very cold spell it would not take long at all for the water to
freeze if it were exposed to the cold.
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Originally posted by KellyJayBut as you surely agree, the transition from hot to cold happens in one single action
I suppose that depends on where you left the boiling hot water, since
hot water freezes faster than cold or room. If you were in the Midwest
during a very cold spell it would not take long at all for the water to
freeze if it were exposed to the cold.
just like (as opponents of evolution argue) apes are supposed to have evolved into modern humans in one step
. So what is out there in the midwest insta-transforming this water from being boiling hot to freezing cold?
Originally posted by AgergI surely agree that water freezing will depend on the temperature and
But as you surely agree, the transition from hot to cold happens in one single action[hidden]just like (as opponents of evolution argue) apes are supposed to have evolved into modern humans in one step[/hidden]. So what is out there in the midwest insta-transforming this water from being boiling hot to freezing cold?
content of the water, how cold it is, and so on.
The transition could be very fast for water to go from boiling to ice, take
a pot of boiling water outside and throw it high in the air and if it is cold
enough that will all turn to ice before it hits the ground.
If you think water freezing is a good example for evolution, I would
disagree.
Ok, noting that they cheated in that video by just throwing all the water away instead of leaving it in the cup to insta-turn cold, I imagine are you saying that we might not have to wait a whole hour. Perhaps it might only take a second or so before the step is taken that transforms it from being boiling hot to freezing cold. Even if that is so, if we divide that second into a billion equal parts, you will surely agree that there is some billionth of a second for which it is just as hot as when it was first boiled, and in the next billionth is as cold as its ever going to be.
Now my question is what causes this instantaneous change at that chosen point? and don't give me any of this so called "cooling" mumbo jumbo please - again, as per your stance on evolution we don't accept changes over time.
02 Mar 15
Originally posted by KellyJayI assume that you meant this the other way round:
I suppose that depends on where you left the boiling hot water, since
hot water freezes faster than cold or room. If you were in the Midwest
during a very cold spell it would not take long at all for the water to
freeze if it were exposed to the cold.
...since hot water freezes faster than [water that is] cold or [at] room [temperature]as I can assure you that a bucket of cold water will freeze more quickly than an otherwise identical bucket of boiling hot water if placed in freezing conditions.
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03 Mar 15
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThis deserves more discussion under Science:
I assume that you meant this the other way round:...since hot water freezes faster than [water that is] cold or [at] room [temperature]as I can assure you that a bucket of cold water will freeze more quickly than an otherwise identical bucket of boiling hot water if placed in freezing conditions.
http://www.iflscience.com/chemistry/hot-water-freezes-faster-cold-and-now-we-know-why
Originally posted by JS357"For many are called, but few are chosen."
Matthew 22 is worth a read. To the believer or interested nonbeliever, it presents important parts of the story.
This could be seen as empowering "cults" who revel in being "few" and in declaring themselves to be "chosen". It also would appear to be at odds with the notion that one has only to believe ~ as billions do, and not "few" ~ to be saved, and that this salvation purportedly comes from that belief (alone) and not from being "chosen".