Originally posted by Badwater
You are allowed to do anything you like as long as it does not hurt yourself or anyone else."
But whether something causes hurt to yourself or another person is sometimes determined by the degree of knowledge one has.
I had to hold my baby girl still while a doctor injected a needle into her back.
That was very, very hard for me to do.
It would cause her hurt I suppose if not done too well.
I would not want anyone to stick a needle into my back.
However, the knowledge of the doctor was that there was a possibility that my baby girl had Meningitis. They had to take a sample of fluid from her spin.
I had to hold her still while the drew a little fluid from her spin.
Now I could have told them "No. I will not let you hurt my daughter. Its wrong."
But the doctor's knowledge convinced me that she might be damaged for life if they did not immediately check that certain symptoms she showed were caused by Meningitis.
She did not have it. But I cannot say I was sorry that they double checked. I did not want to risk her having greater hurt of a lifelong nature because of the awful disease.
Who knows more than God?
No one knows more what will really hurt a person, than the heavenly Father.
Originally posted by sonshipSpot on. Also, if morality is merely man made, why is it binding for all people? Why should it be obligatory for everyone?You are allowed to do anything you like as long as it does not hurt yourself or anyone else."
But whether something causes hurt to yourself or another person is sometimes determined by the degree of knowledge one has.
I had to hold my baby girl still while a doctor injected a needle into her back.
That was very, very hard for me to ...[text shortened]... nows more than God?
No one knows more what will really hurt a person, than the heavenly Father.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke1. If society determines what is right and wrong, then are the morals derived from society obligatory to all members of society?
Moral cooperation enables society to function and advance. It has always been this way.
What planet are you living on?
2. If the morals derived in society are not obligatory, then how are they proper morals that should be followed?
3. If the morals derived in society are obligatory, then from where do you derive the right to impose them on people?
4. If you say that society has the right to impose its morals on its people, then how can you legitimately complain against Nazi Germany or the Jews of the Old Testament since both societies imposed their morals on people?
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIt's been explained to him in painful detail at least twice. He clearly understands how it works, but he's never going to admit it, for whatever reason.
Moral cooperation enables society to function and advance. It has always been this way.
What planet are you living on?
Originally posted by avalanchethecatWell if you even understand how it works you should have no problem answering the 4 questions above you. But then again is easier just to blank them out and pretend they aren't there.
It's been explained to him in painful detail at least twice. He clearly understands how it works, but he's never going to admit it, for whatever reason.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkHand on your heart sir, do you 'honestly' not remember me answering a variation of that question?
1. If society determines what is right and wrong, then are the morals derived from society obligatory to all members of society?
2. If the morals derived in society are not obligatory, then how are they proper morals that should be followed?
3. If the morals derived in society are obligatory, then from where do you derive the right to impose them o ...[text shortened]... zi Germany or the Jews of the Old Testament since both societies imposed their morals on people?
Honestly? And if you do recall me answering, why are you asking again? Are you hoping my answer will have changed?
I truly don't understand your strategy in doing this.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI bet you were grinning all over your face as you wrote this weren't you? Sorry kid, trolling only works if you can maintain the illusion of not being a troll.
Well if you even understand how it works you should have no problem answering the 4 questions above you. But then again is easier just to blank them out and pretend they aren't there.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSo if I've asked you a variation of one of those questions you should ignore the other three? Oh well won't be holding my breath for a straight answer.
Hand on your heart sir, do you 'honestly' not remember me answering a variation of that question?
Honestly? And if you do recall me answering, why are you asking again? Are you hoping my answer will have changed?
I truly don't understand your strategy in doing this.