Questions on morality

Originally posted by FMF
Copy paste the post of mine where I supposedly said this.

By saying the Christian way is wrong and the right thing to do is for me to find my own way, implying that any other way I find apart from Christianity, would be the right way for me.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
By saying the Christian way is wrong and the right thing to do is for me to find my own way, implying that any other way I find apart from Christianity, would be the right way for me.

What utter nonsense. If your "own way" ~ that you find ~ is the Christian way, then good for you. That has been my crystal clear stance on the Christian lives of Christians I encounter not only here but also in "real' life for ten years or more. Your misrepresentation of what I have said to you is truly bizarre. I think you may be trying rather too hard to land a blow.

Originally posted by FMF
What utter nonsense. If your "own way" ~ that you find ~ is the Christian way, then good for you. That has been my crystal clear stance on the Christian lives of Christians I encounter not only here but also in "real' life for ten years or more. Your misrepresentation of what I have said to you is truly bizarre. I think you may be trying rather too hard to land a blow.

You said, "I believe that you are mistaken to root your mind map and moral stances in such mythology."

I said, "..tell me where the correct place would be to root my mind map and moral stances."

You said, "Find your own way."

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You said, "I believe that you are mistaken to root your mind map and moral stances in such mythology."

I said, "..tell me where the correct place would be to root my mind map and moral stances."

You said, "Find your own way."

And if finding your own way brings you to Christianity, then so be it; good for you. In the context of my own experience and my own current beliefs, I think Christianity (and all other organized religions) are somewhat of a squandering of the human spirit ~ people settling for a package of curiosity ending prefabricated "answers", as it were, and therefor mistaken ~ but if it floats your spiritual boats and gives you whatever 'purpose' and 'meaning' you are looking for, good luck to you. Go for it. It doesn't work for me.

When I said "Find your own way", I was clearly - and simply - refusing your request to "...tell [you] where the correct place would be to root [your] mind map and moral stances". Get the wrong end of the stick much?

Originally posted by FMF
And if finding your own way brings you to Christianity, then so be it; good for you. In the context of my own experience and my own current beliefs, I think Christianity (and all other organized religions) are somewhat of a squandering of the human spirit ~ people settling for a package of curiosity ending prefabricated "answers", as it were, and therefor mistak ...[text shortened]... place would be to root [your] mind map and moral stances". Get the wrong end of the stick much?

Do you or do you not know where the correct place is to root your mind map and moral stances?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
By saying the Christian way is wrong and the right thing to do is for me to find my own way, implying that any other way I find apart from Christianity, would be the right way for me.

Now that your misunderstanding has been cleared up, it will be interesting to see whether you'll acknowledge the fact that you misunderstood/misrepresented what I was saying to you, or whether you'll just ignore the explanation.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you or do you not know where the correct place is to root your mind map and moral stances?

I believe I have found the correct place - for me, at least - to root my mind map and moral stances. I am, of course, a work in progress, as we all are.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you or do you not know where the correct place is to root your mind map and moral stances?

It looks like you're simply going to ignore what I said and not accept (i.e. ignore) that you got the wrong end of the stick. No surprise there then.

Originally posted by FMF
What utter nonsense. If your "own way" ~ that you find ~ is the Christian way, then good for you. That has been my crystal clear stance on the Christian lives of Christians I encounter not only here but also in "real' life for ten years or more. Your misrepresentation of what I have said to you is truly bizarre. I think you may be trying rather too hard to land a blow.

So you are saying Christianity is the wrong way for you but could be the right way for me?

So what is true for you is not necessarily true for me?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So you are saying Christianity is the wrong way for you but could be the right way for me?

What I am saying is exactly what I have been saying: just read what I have said and you will be able to see what it is I have said.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So what is true for you is not necessarily true for me?

We are talking about our beliefs and our mind maps and our stances. It is "true" that I am not a Christian. It is "true" that you are one. I believe I have found the right path for me. If your path seems "true" to you, that's fine by me.

Originally posted by FMF
We are talking about our beliefs and our mind maps and our stances. It is "true" that I am not a Christian. It is "true" that you are one. I believe I have found the right path for me. If your path seems "true" to you, that's fine by me.

So would it be fine by you if someone like Hitler claimed that they had found the right path that seems 'true' for them? If not, why would the path that I find be, 'fine by you' and the path that they find not be, 'fine by you'?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So would it be fine by you if someone like Hitler claimed that they had found the right path that seems 'true' for them? If not, why would the path that I find be, 'fine by you' and the path that they find not be, 'fine by you'?

This is essentially the same question that you have asked (and that I have answered) what feels like a hundred or two hundred times already.

If your chosen path results in you engaging in morally unsound actions, then that is how I will perceive them. If they result in actions that warrant prosecution and punishment, I will support those responses.

How on earth would it mitigate what Hitler did if it were to be argued out that he believed himself to be on the "right path" and "true".

You keep speaking to me as if I am a defender of Hitler and a defender of genocide, whereas it has been you - and not me - who has defended genocide and it has been you who has downplayed the Holocaust, and not me.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So would it be fine by you if someone like Hitler claimed that they had found the right path that seems 'true' for them?

Do you need your beliefs regarding the Christian bible and your god figure in order to feel able to condemn Hitler and the Holocaust?

Originally posted by FMF
This is essentially the same question that you have asked (and that I have answered) what feels like a hundred or two hundred times already.

If your chosen path results in you engaging in morally unsound actions, then that is how I will perceive them. If they result in actions that warrant prosecution and punishment, I will support those responses.

How ...[text shortened]... me - who has defended genocide and it has been you who has downplayed the Holocaust, and not me.

But your use of the words "morally unsound actions", is self determined. If your morals and standards are self-determined, then they are only true for you. If Hitlers morals are self-determined they are true for Hitler. How can you know that your self-determined morals are correct and Hitler's aren't, especially since it seems you are claiming that each person's moral truth is self determined.