Reasons for disbelief in the Christian God

@wolfgang59 said
Ok, so we have discovered God does not like ants or people.

The zombie ant thing is actually a bigger God deterrent for me than the whole 'suffering of the innocent' thing. WHY would a loving God design and create such a horrendous parasite?!


'All things bright and beautiful,
all creatures great and small,
all things wise and wonderful,
the lord god made them all.'

(Bonus verse)

He made the little parasite
to zombify the ant,
He filled its head with killer spores
he now needs a brain transplant

'All things bright and beautiful,
all creatures great and small,
all things wise and wonderful,
the lord god made them all.'

Since cassaidr4 doesn't have it in her to answer the question for herself, would somebody else voice their view?

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the MOST moral and 1 being the LEAST where are YOU on that scale as compared to Jesus Christ ?

Where would you put Jesus and where would you put Caissdr4 on the scale ?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The zombie ant thing is actually a bigger God deterrent for me than the whole 'suffering of the innocent' thing. WHY would a loving God design and create such a horrendous parasite?!

You mean you actually cannot see why God would include in His creation things like leeches, parasites, vampire bats, tapeworms ? You actually cannot appreciate why in this world God would not include such creatures from which we could LEARN something?

Think about it a little more.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
1. As has been argued by philosophers before me, God can not be both omnipotent and perfectly loving. - Take for example an infant dying from a terminal disease. God either can't or won't intervene. If he 'cannot' then He is not omnipotent, and if he 'will not' then He is not perfectly loving. With the existence of such suffering of the innocent, it is impossible for ...[text shortened]... hat the cycle could continue. - Why would an all loving God design and create such a thing?!

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Why can’t God be omnipotent and loving if he grants us free will?

@chaney3 said
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean NOT on your own understanding".
Proverbs 3:5

While I realize that this is most difficult, it's the only way to cope with fact that it's a futile effort for a human mind to try to make sense of what God does and does not do.

Edit: also, for me, the existence of human suffering does not negate the existence of God. I ha ...[text shortened]... ists, despite the many many things I have no explanation for, or the many things I cannot understand

wot a £ucking copout answer.

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The zombie ant thing is actually a bigger God deterrent for me than the whole 'suffering of the innocent' thing. WHY would a loving God design and create such a horrendous parasite?!

You mean you actually cannot see why God would include in His creation things like leeches, parasites, vampire bats, tapeworms ? You actually cannot appr ...[text shortened]... d not include such creatures from which we could LEARN something?

Think about it a little more.

Please explain the divine lesson sir of the zombie-ant.

@dj2becker said
Why can’t God be omnipotent and loving if he grants us free will?

Succinctly, please explain what free will has to do with a child dying of a terminal illness?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Succinctly, please explain what free will has to do with a child dying of a terminal illness?

Abortion is a death directly tied to a choice, a free will choice. How do you think that is justified or condemned when you compare that to cancer?

@kellyjay said
Abortion is a death directly tied to a choice, a free will choice. How do you think that is justified or condemned when you compare that to cancer?

What does free will have to do with a child dying of a terminal illness?

@kellyjay said
Abortion is a death directly tied to a choice, a free will choice. How do you think that is justified or condemned when you compare that to cancer?

Possibly the weirdest dodge-pivot counter question ever.

@kellyjay said
Abortion is a death directly tied to a choice, a free will choice. How do you think that is justified or condemned when you compare that to cancer?

This thread is about reasons for disbelief in the Christian God and this particular conversation about an innocent child dying of a terminal illness where 'free will' is an irrelevancy. I understand why you would prefer to divert away from that rather than dealing with the question directly, but abortion is a whole different conversation you can have elsewhere.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
This thread is about reasons for disbelief in the Christian God and this particular conversation about an innocent child dying of a terminal illness where 'free will' is an irrelevancy. I understand why you would prefer to divert away from that rather than dealing with the question directly, but abortion is a whole different conversation you can have elsewhere.

You are making a value judgment are you not? God cannot be real “if”, and you choose children dying of cancer. You accept one and not the other as one is okay an not an insult to the idea of a good God.

Is it okay as long as those affected are not complaining? That would be convenient and really dispel your selective moral framework suggesting it is only because you dislike one thing so God cannot be real but are okay with the larger killer of life because it is acceptable by you and society!