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29 May 08
Originally posted by scottishinnzCar dealers are Christians? So much for the virtues of truth and charity.
http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,2644,Car-dealership-advert-tells-atheists-to-shut-up,Telegraph
A car dealership in the US tells atheists to "shut up". So much for Christian tolerance of others.
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30 May 08
Originally posted by scottishinnzAdvertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
Perhaps this advertisement does not work.
30 May 08
Originally posted by scottishinnzAdverts here in South Africa tap into and expand on peoples fears. That doesn't mean they tell the truth. eg:
You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
1. We have a shortage of electricity so the dishwasher makers claim their dishwashers use less power than hand washing (lie).
2. You can now buy an insects spray that includes detol and antibacterial product supposedly so that it will kill the cockroach and kill the bacteria on the cockroach. It plays on peoples fear of germs. It is totally unnecessary and actually harmful to the environment - the same can be said for most toilet cleaning products.
30 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KIt certainly won't now - PZ Meyers instigated a letter writing campaign, and the dealership was retracted it, and apologied for any offence it may have caused.
[b]Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
Perhaps this advertisement does not work.[/b]
30 May 08
Originally posted by twhiteheadIndeed. Interesting examples about local examples. I would love to gove similar ones, but my Japanese stinks too badly! Still, in this country, things like hybrid cars and the like are very common. But I guess that's playing into a justified fear (of global warming) - especially for a country which imports 61% of its food.
Adverts here in South Africa tap into and expand on peoples fears. That doesn't mean they tell the truth. eg:
1. We have a shortage of electricity so the dishwasher makers claim their dishwashers use less power than hand washing (lie).
2. You can now buy an insects spray that includes detol and antibacterial product supposedly so that it will kill the c ...[text shortened]... d actually harmful to the environment - the same can be said for most toilet cleaning products.
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Originally posted by scottishinnzIf the dealer apologised for any offense, surely that is an demonstration of tolerance?
It certainly won't now - PZ Meyers instigated a letter writing campaign, and the dealership was retracted it, and apologied for any offence it may have caused.
30 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KNo, it is a demonstration of fear of repercussions.
If the dealer apologised for any offense, surely that is an demonstration of tolerance?
Recently a solider in Iraq shot a Quran full of holes during target practice. George W Bush personally apologized for the soldiers actions. Is that a demonstration of tolerance too?
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Originally posted by twhiteheadIf this car dealership targeted a Christian market, which as scottishinnz claims, must also be intolerant, then why apologise? Presumably, it should have no impact on their own commerce. If they feared repercussions, then either they must have expanded their market niche to include atheists (in which case they are no longer intolerant) or Christians must be opposed to the discrimination against atheists (so these Christians must not be intolerant.)
No, it is a demonstration of fear of repercussions.
Recently a solider in Iraq shot a Quran full of holes during target practice. George W Bush personally apologized for the soldiers actions. Is that a demonstration of tolerance too?
30 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KNonsense. Racists are quite happy to make money off black people, Hitler was quite happy to sell cars to Jews.
If they feared repercussions, then either they must have expanded their market niche to include atheists (in which case they are no longer intolerant)
or Christians must be opposed to the discrimination against atheists (so these Christians must not be intolerant.)
Or possibly they feared repercussions from the atheists in ways other than simply not buying their product.
Maybe it was in fact a demonstration of the intolerance of the atheists!
30 May 08
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Originally posted by scottishinnzI'm sorry that you think a car dealership is representative of anything. This thread tells me more about you than Christians, actually. Have you been learning propaganda tactics with Philidor?
You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.