1. Standard memberscottishinnz
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    29 May '08 06:34
    http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,2644,Car-dealership-advert-tells-atheists-to-shut-up,Telegraph

    A car dealership in the US tells atheists to "shut up". So much for Christian tolerance of others.
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    29 May '08 09:05
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,2644,Car-dealership-advert-tells-atheists-to-shut-up,Telegraph

    A car dealership in the US tells atheists to "shut up". So much for Christian tolerance of others.
    A car dealership said something? How meaningful.
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    29 May '08 10:43
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,2644,Car-dealership-advert-tells-atheists-to-shut-up,Telegraph

    A car dealership in the US tells atheists to "shut up". So much for Christian tolerance of others.
    Car dealers are Christians? So much for the virtues of truth and charity.
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    29 May '08 10:59
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Car dealers are Christians? So much for the virtues of truth and charity.
    Some are.
    Whenever they sell a used car they use to say:
    "Thank God, he bought it!"
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    29 May '08 13:47
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Car dealers are Christians? So much for the virtues of truth and charity.
    they are like estate agents they do not lie and have a charitable discriptions of what they sell. tho they discard anything unhelpful
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    30 May '08 03:47
    Originally posted by Palynka
    A car dealership said something? How meaningful.
    You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
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    30 May '08 05:48
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
    Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.

    Perhaps this advertisement does not work.
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    30 May '08 06:28
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
    Adverts here in South Africa tap into and expand on peoples fears. That doesn't mean they tell the truth. eg:
    1. We have a shortage of electricity so the dishwasher makers claim their dishwashers use less power than hand washing (lie).
    2. You can now buy an insects spray that includes detol and antibacterial product supposedly so that it will kill the cockroach and kill the bacteria on the cockroach. It plays on peoples fear of germs. It is totally unnecessary and actually harmful to the environment - the same can be said for most toilet cleaning products.
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    30 May '08 07:40
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    [b]Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.

    Perhaps this advertisement does not work.[/b]
    It certainly won't now - PZ Meyers instigated a letter writing campaign, and the dealership was retracted it, and apologied for any offence it may have caused.
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    30 May '08 07:42
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Adverts here in South Africa tap into and expand on peoples fears. That doesn't mean they tell the truth. eg:
    1. We have a shortage of electricity so the dishwasher makers claim their dishwashers use less power than hand washing (lie).
    2. You can now buy an insects spray that includes detol and antibacterial product supposedly so that it will kill the c ...[text shortened]... d actually harmful to the environment - the same can be said for most toilet cleaning products.
    Indeed. Interesting examples about local examples. I would love to gove similar ones, but my Japanese stinks too badly! Still, in this country, things like hybrid cars and the like are very common. But I guess that's playing into a justified fear (of global warming) - especially for a country which imports 61% of its food.
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    30 May '08 08:17
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    It certainly won't now - PZ Meyers instigated a letter writing campaign, and the dealership was retracted it, and apologied for any offence it may have caused.
    If the dealer apologised for any offense, surely that is an demonstration of tolerance?
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    30 May '08 08:43
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    If the dealer apologised for any offense, surely that is an demonstration of tolerance?
    No, it is a demonstration of fear of repercussions.
    Recently a solider in Iraq shot a Quran full of holes during target practice. George W Bush personally apologized for the soldiers actions. Is that a demonstration of tolerance too?
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    30 May '08 09:05
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    No, it is a demonstration of fear of repercussions.
    Recently a solider in Iraq shot a Quran full of holes during target practice. George W Bush personally apologized for the soldiers actions. Is that a demonstration of tolerance too?
    If this car dealership targeted a Christian market, which as scottishinnz claims, must also be intolerant, then why apologise? Presumably, it should have no impact on their own commerce. If they feared repercussions, then either they must have expanded their market niche to include atheists (in which case they are no longer intolerant) or Christians must be opposed to the discrimination against atheists (so these Christians must not be intolerant.)
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    30 May '08 09:19
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    If they feared repercussions, then either they must have expanded their market niche to include atheists (in which case they are no longer intolerant)
    Nonsense. Racists are quite happy to make money off black people, Hitler was quite happy to sell cars to Jews.

    or Christians must be opposed to the discrimination against atheists (so these Christians must not be intolerant.)
    Or possibly they feared repercussions from the atheists in ways other than simply not buying their product.

    Maybe it was in fact a demonstration of the intolerance of the atheists!
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    30 May '08 10:011 edit
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    You have to remember though that these people are only saying what they perceive to be on the minds of the majority of people. Advertisements don't work unless they tap into the consciousness of others.
    I'm sorry that you think a car dealership is representative of anything. This thread tells me more about you than Christians, actually. Have you been learning propaganda tactics with Philidor?
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