Originally posted by OdBodcan you be a little more specific? are all religions involved in these killings?
Here we go again,riots in Bangladesh ,speak against their religion you should die,atheist bloggers should die,less rights for women just throw acid at them! Give me humanism every time!
Originally posted by sonshipi would blame stalins father who was a priest and physically abused him for the brutal man stalin became rather than cheaply laying it at the feet of atheism.Give me humanism every time!
Please give atheism a chance.
Joseph Stalin anyone ?
Mao Tsetung anyone ?
Nicolae Ceausescu anyone ?
Pol Pot anyone ?
Originally posted by stellspalfieyeah just like a namby pamby secular liberal to try to mitigate the reality. Face the facts, atheism has produced more horrendous killers than than the meanest medieval crusader could hope to aspire to.
i would blame stalins father who was a priest and physically abused him for the brutal man stalin became rather than cheaply laying it at the feet of atheism.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieExplain to me how these people's atheism drove them to commit the horrors they did.
yeah just like a namby pamby secular liberal to try to mitigate the reality. Face the facts, atheism has produced more horrendous killers than than the meanest medieval crusader could hope to aspire to.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou can just as easily say they were all motivated to establish a communist state and to crush all who opposed their world view. Why do you claim that atheism produced these killers and not communism?
They were motivated to establish an atheistic state and to crush all who opposed their world view.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieare you mitigating child abuse to score religious points?
yeah just like a namby pamby secular liberal to try to mitigate the reality. Face the facts, atheism has produced more horrendous killers than than the meanest medieval crusader could hope to aspire to.
What history books are you religious people reading?More people have been killed,maimed ,brutalised and oppressed in the name of a religion than any other cause.If you had not noticed all man made despots are eventually overcome because they are seen to be MANMADE unlike many religions who claim Divine Right and certain types of people continue to believe it.
Originally posted by OdBodAtheism is manmade.
What history books are you religious people reading?More people have been killed,maimed ,brutalised and oppressed in the name of a religion than any other cause.If you had not noticed all man made despots are eventually overcome because they are seen to be MANMADE unlike many religions who claim Divine Right and certain types of people continue to believe it.
You can't blame parents for people's sins.
i would blame stalins father who was a priest and physically abused him for the brutal man stalin became rather than cheaply laying it at the feet of atheism.
Of course you would. You could blame his barber, his landlord, his great grand uncle, his next door neighbor, his plumber, his third cousin.
Sure you could rationalize that it was some religious person somewhere in his past.
Originally posted by sonshipblimey......i wasnt blaming religion. i was pointing out that blaming atheism for his actions is just as ridiculous as blaming religion for his fathers actions. atheism, just like christianity doesnt create violence, a violent person creates violence and a violent person is created because of their life experiences or a brain defect.i would blame stalins father who was a priest and physically abused him for the brutal man stalin became rather than cheaply laying it at the feet of atheism.
Of course you would. You could blame his barber, his landlord, his great grand uncle, his next door neighbor, his plumber, his third cousin.
Sure you could rationalize that it was some religious person somewhere in his past.