Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I do not know of the conversation.
I do know that there is a knowledge of God which is experiencial, subjective, intimate and can be mutually shared by many people corporately.
People like myself utilize both kinds of knowledge to help people to come to know God. One has to know how to read to get something from reading the Bible.
But one also should know what it is like to be drawn close to God and to know how to allow God to enter into their hearts subjectively.
Knowing something about history to counter some argument is important. But also knowing Christ by receiving Him, knowing of His faithfulness and the sinner's need is vital also.
There are even two Greek words for know in the New Testament -
Ginosko and
Oido. The latter word translated
"know" is deeper and more subjective.
Pioneering Paul's life's aspiration was to KNOW Christ in the must intimate way. I want to be the same. I encourage others that it is the best.
"But moreover I also count all things to be loss on account of the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, on account of who I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as refuse that I may know Christ.
And be found in Him, not having my own righteousness which is out of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is out of God and based on faith,
To KNOW Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, etc. etc. " (Phil 3:89)
The riches and most valuable knowledge Paul knew was to to Christ intimately, experiencially. Compared to this he counted all his other attainments refuse. And he was a very educated person.
Paul also spoke of the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge. That is something wonderful from God to us which transcends objective information gathering of man's knowledge.
"And to know the knowledge surpassing love of Christ, that you may be filled unto all the fullness of God." (Eph. 3:19)
He is speaking to a collective group saying this knowledge surpassing love of Christ will cause them to be filled unto all the fullness of God.
And again:
"And the peace of God, which surpasses every man's understanding, will guard your hearts and you thoughts in Christ Jesus." (Phil 4:7)
We evangelist try by all means to help others enter into this knowledge of the Person of God as a living One. We try.
We ourselves were brought forward to this Person. We just believe that others can be brought forward as we were.