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    13 Jan '11 16:21
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    You suggest that forces and laws are just existing without intelligence or design or cause or plan......this is your cheating atheistic way.......and I do not accept it, nor does any honest man.

    You suggest this because your intelligence is defective because you have contracted the madness disease of atheism, which has robbed you of sanity.
    How would you determine what intelligence is "defective"?

    Is intelligence behind the snowflake defective?

    If there is intelligence everywhere, then intelligence is one. Therefore all intelligence is either defective or perfect. If defective intelligence exists, then all intelligence is defective, including yours.
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    13 Jan '11 16:392 edits
    Originally posted by lausey
    How would you determine what intelligence is "defective"?

    Is intelligence behind the snowflake defective?

    If there is intelligence everywhere, then intelligence is one. Therefore all intelligence is either defective or perfect. If defective intelligence exists, then all intelligence is defective, including yours.
    pffft 😞
    There you go twisting words and fault finding again, the cheating scientist that you are! You are not ready to discuss matters of intelligence because you are a meat eater and dishonest.









    😛
  3. Standard memberDasa
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    13 Jan '11 23:57
    Originally posted by lausey
    How would you determine what intelligence is "defective"?

    Is intelligence behind the snowflake defective?

    If there is intelligence everywhere, then intelligence is one. Therefore all intelligence is either defective or perfect. If defective intelligence exists, then all intelligence is defective, including yours.
    Air is almost everywhere, but in some places its clean and in other places its polluted.

    Like wise intelligence IS everywhere, because God is omnipresent, and in the case of humans who have free will, they can pollute their intelligence, by their chosen words, deeds and thoughts.

    Intelligence is in every atom, giving direction to its construct and particular behavior.....you should know this.

    If there where no intelligence and creative will from God, then things would fall apart and not remain in their particular construct.
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    14 Jan '11 00:13
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Air is almost everywhere, but in some places its clean and in other places its polluted.

    Like wise intelligence IS everywhere, because God is omnipresent, and in the case of humans who have free will, they can pollute their intelligence, by their chosen words, deeds and thoughts.

    Intelligence is in every atom, giving direction to its construct and ...[text shortened]... eative will from God, then things would fall apart and not remain in their particular construct.
    So your god controls every atom, every quark, every muon that bursts forth, all the virtual particles, every combination of atoms, causes all the meteorites that hit the Earth, this god knew when the universe popped into existence the chixulub meteorite/asteroid was going to destroy the dinosaurs and 80% of everything else on earth 65 million years ago, and knew when the universe banged in the extinction event where the Earth was almost completely covered with ice, all that this god knew when the universe started. Seems like such a god would be drowned in details, where would this god ever get time to grab a joint, laugh at the butterflies?
  5. Standard memberKellyJay
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    14 Jan '11 01:27
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So your god controls every atom, every quark, every muon that bursts forth, all the virtual particles, every combination of atoms, causes all the meteorites that hit the Earth, this god knew when the universe popped into existence the chixulub meteorite/asteroid was going to destroy the dinosaurs and 80% of everything else on earth 65 million years ago, an ...[text shortened]... rowned in details, where would this god ever get time to grab a joint, laugh at the butterflies?
    You assume a lot here, that those things occurred like you say. It could so be that
    God created everything and everything when God created it all was very good,
    and none of the bad things you brought up ever would have happen at any time to
    anyone. After it was all started some thought they could do what they will over
    their creator standard of love, and you end up with a broken universe a product
    that is currently being redeemed back to its original purpose at its beginning.
    Kelly
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    14 Jan '11 05:32
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You assume a lot here, that those things occurred like you say. It could so be that
    God created everything and everything when God created it all was very good,
    and none of the bad things you brought up ever would have happen at any time to
    anyone. After it was all started some thought they could do what they will over
    their creator standard of love, an ...[text shortened]... product
    that is currently being redeemed back to its original purpose at its beginning.
    Kelly
    Kelly Jay turned hindu...
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    14 Jan '11 08:44
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So your god controls every atom, every quark, every muon that bursts forth, all the virtual particles, every combination of atoms, causes all the meteorites that hit the Earth, this god knew when the universe popped into existence the chixulub meteorite/asteroid was going to destroy the dinosaurs and 80% of everything else on earth 65 million years ago, an ...[text shortened]... rowned in details, where would this god ever get time to grab a joint, laugh at the butterflies?
    God is everywhere because God IS everything, directly and indirectly.

    God controls every atom in existence by his expanded energies......just like the influence of the President of the USA, is spread to all places in his country.

    Ultimately everything is just energy, but there are two types.

    1. spiritual energy.

    2. material energy.

    All energy weather material or spiritual, has its existence in God.

    Material energy cannot function, or will itself to do.

    Spiritual energy is potent and can manipulate material energy.....because spiritual energy is living, and it is conscious and aware.

    Material energy is dead and is the puppet, and spiritual energy is the puppeteer.

    You (the soul) are spiritual energy and are indestructible and eternal.

    And your body is just a passing flash of dust, in eternity.
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    18 Jan '11 17:17
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So your god controls every atom, every quark, every muon that bursts forth, all the virtual particles, every combination of atoms, causes all the meteorites that hit the Earth, this god knew when the universe popped into existence the chixulub meteorite/asteroid was going to destroy the dinosaurs and 80% of everything else on earth 65 million years ago, an ...[text shortened]... rowned in details, where would this god ever get time to grab a joint, laugh at the butterflies?
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    where would this god ever get time to grab a joint, laugh at the butterflies?============================================


    Stay away from those joints sonhouse. It might help you to think a bit clearer.
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    24 Jan '11 14:15
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    World war-3 can start right now, and i dont care , because if everyone was to be incinerated this second, we would only take birth again somewhere else on a different planet, in a different universe.

    The soul is eternal and can never be destroyed, so life just goes on, like its been going on for eternity.
    How revealing of you. And to think I sometimes question the wisdom of religious zealots.
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    29 Jan '11 03:56
    If they need their bums felt, just tell them to go to the airport and take a flight
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