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    Has Satan the devil ever tried to kill Jesus?
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    22 Dec '09 21:43
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Has Satan the devil ever tried to kill Jesus?
    No, if anything he tries to help Jesus out.
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    22 Dec '09 22:00
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Has Satan the devil ever tried to kill Jesus?
    No.
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    22 Dec '09 23:06
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Has Satan the devil ever tried to kill Jesus?
    Any thoughts on the so called star that lead the "wise men" to Jesus?
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    22 Dec '09 23:17
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Any thoughts on the so called star that lead the "wise men" to Jesus?
    You got stuck in your evangelical crossword or something?
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    22 Dec '09 23:183 edits
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Has Satan the devil ever tried to kill Jesus?
    Yes.

    When Satan realized that God had become a man he thought - "Well if he is now a man I'll just KILL him."

    In doing so he sealed his own fate terribly. And he afforded God a way to accomplish His eternal redemption.

    Satan killing of Christ also afforded Christ a way to release His life into others that He could be multiplied:

    "Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." (John 12:24)

    The death of Christ therefore had not only a redemptive effect to Satan's undoing. But it also had a duplicating effect in that the one grain was multiplied into many grains for the formation a kingdom of the sons of God.

    Satan's move to kill Jesus was the greatest of all his blunders. But God is too wise and through death He destroyed him who has the might of death, the devil (Hebrew 2:14) .

    Satan knows that the uniting of God and man is his ultimate execution. He strives to keep God and man apart. If he cannot keep them totally apart he will deceive man to accept a halfway house kind of relationship so that God does not enter into man.

    If he cannot kill God he can enfluence man to stay in a religion in which God and man are never organically united.= - Islam, Judaism, degraded Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses.

    If Satan can just keep man APART from God as his life he can forestall his execution.
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    22 Dec '09 23:221 edit
    Reality is more fascinating than any fiction devized by the human imagination.

    Christ the God man, through death, destroyed him who has the might of death.

    The more His people turn over their whole being to the indwelling Christ the more subjectively the enemy of God is pushed out of man.

    The scale will be tipped in God's favor at some critical mass when enough overcomers have been saturated with Christ.

    These ovecomers will form a beachhead like the Normandy envasion. Through this beachhead the planet will be regained for Christ and God.
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    23 Dec '09 00:16
    Originally posted by jaywill
    Yes.

    When Satan realized that God had become a man he thought - "Well if he is now a man I'll just KILL him."

    In doing so he sealed his own fate terribly. And he afforded God a way to accomplish His eternal redemption.

    Satan killing of Christ also afforded Christ a way to release His life into others that He could be multiplied:

    [b]"Truly, tr ...[text shortened]...
    If Satan can just keep man APART from God as his life he can forestall his execution.
    Exactly where do you see Satan trying to kill Jesus?
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    23 Dec '09 00:47
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Exactly where do you see Satan trying to kill Jesus?
    Where did the star come from? God? Just read that account and see how things actually happened.
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    23 Dec '09 00:57
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Where did the star come from? God? Just read that account and see how things actually happened.
    Uh?
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    23 Dec '09 01:19
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Uh?
    Galvo is referring to the so called, 'nativity of Christ'.
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    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Uh?
    Ok..if you read the whole account of the supposed 3 wise men and this star that supposedly leads them to Jesus, it is not saying this at all. A little research says these were astrologers. They were looking for the Messiah because of prophises that they had heard about. But they noticed this star or light in the sky which led them to Jerusalem. A side point is that there is no mention of anyone else seeing this star or light. Not even the shepards in the fields. In fact King Herod asked what it looked like because neither he or any one esle had seen it.
    But this star did not lead them to Jesus but instead to Herod who hired them to find Jesus and then let him know where he was so he could have him killed to keep this Messiah from later on challenging his Kingship.
    The astrologers eventually found Jesus. But because of a dream they had warning them to not return to Herod, they left back for their home.
    And finally Joseph had a dream to move his family to Egypt to run and hide from Herod.
    So the question is who was behind this so called star that led the astrologers to Herod? Why would God produce this light that would have led to Jesus's death if the astrologers had reported back to Herod?
    All this is in black and white in Matt 2:1-23.
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    23 Dec '09 01:40
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Ok..if you read the whole account of the supposed 3 wise men and this star that supposedly leads them to Jesus, it is not saying this at all. A little research says these were astrologers. They were looking for the Messiah because of prophises that they had heard about. But they noticed this star or light in the sky which led them to Jerusalem. A side po ...[text shortened]... if the astrologers had reported back to Herod?
    All this is in black and white in Matt 2:1-23.
    So Herod was Satan?
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    23 Dec '09 01:52
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    So Herod was Satan?
    No not directly but obviously he did not have God's interest in mind. No the point is who was this star or light being guided by?
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    23 Dec '09 02:26
    Originally posted by galveston75
    No not directly but obviously he did not have God's interest in mind. No the point is who was this star or light being guided by?
    I don't understand what this has to do with your original question.
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