Originally posted by RJHinds
I know anyone can be an educated fool and believe and do stupid things. But G. W. Bush was not a stupid person. He was a very good governor of the state of Texas. He got some bad advice on how to handle the war against al-Qaeda and should have put more effort in Afghanistan in the beginning to get their leader Osama Bin Laden. But due to the connection a ...[text shortened]... ies.
By the way, I have never called the [b]greatest scientific minds of our time stupid.[/b]
"I know anyone can be an educated fool and believe and do stupid things. But G. W. Bush was not a stupid person"
sorry but the man is an idiot, he has no understanding of global politics and seems to have watched too many westerns, his constant comments about "good guys and bad guys" is a childs view of the world. its never entered his thick skull that to most of the world america is viewed as a "bad guy". he should have spent more time talking to historians and political experts from around the world, iraq has been a battlefield for thousands of years, what made him think he could role in with his tanks and change anything...stupidity and arrogance.
he may have been a good governor in texas, its more his level, straight talking cowboy spiel, deals done in titty bars and golf coarses with the old boys network. but global politics is several leagues above and takes are real thinker not an ex-alcoholic playboy baffoon that fell into politics because he'd ran out of things to do.
He got some bad advice on how to handle the war against al-Qaeda
he's the president!!!!! its his job to make sure he gets these thing right!!!!! why did he just listen to the cia!!!!! why not listen to middle eastern experts, why didnt he look at the history of the area!!! because he was stupid and wanted to give somebody a kick-in after 9/11 regardless if they had anything to do with it.
" But due to the connection and support that al-Qaeda was receiving through Iraq"
iraq was nowhere near the main source of support for al-qaeda. saudi arabia is number one, then pakistan then egypt. why didnt bush go for one of them. why does america have such a strong relationship with saudi arabi!!!!! is it because if the saudis pulled their money out of the u.s. it would cripple america?
Saddam Hussein was defying the United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and shooting at our planes that were flying over Irag
what would america do if iraq had flown war planes of u.s. soil? if the u.n put restriction on the u.s due to its illegal invasion of iraq do you think the u.s. would listen? im not saying hussain was right, but he's gonna try and look after his interest, oil.
"should have put more effort in Afghanista"
or pakistan as it turned out. the war in afganistan is against the taliban, afganistan is a recruitment area for al-qaeda but killing taliban isnt going to help, it just creates more anger and more rebellion and creates more terrorists. the sensible way is to slowly change a country, improving its wealth is the main way, but the west likes to keep the middle east and africa poor so we do not have to share resources.
We also needed to protect our oil interests in the Middle East and our only democratic ally in the region, Israel
well i agree in the first bit, the most sensible thing you have said. iraq is no threat to israel. israel would have battered iraq. iran is the main threat and is today. where was america when iran was building nuclear devices??? america wouldnt go to war with iran because iran would put up one hell of a fight. it would be vietnam^100
But will little support from those European nations we thought were or allies, like France, we were somewhat limited in our actions.
so rather than accepting that these nations were correct and did the right thing by not going to war, you are going to whinge that they should have supported you anyway?? thats crazy, maybe bush should have listened to what they had to say.
In my opinion, it was actions from the democratic opposition and from the greedy that screwed our economy more than the war
it was the sub prime mortgage lending that screwed the u.s. and europe. the greed of the american rich also. right wing politicians have always thought that money should be fed from the top and should drip down to the bottom, the rich get rich and the poor - poorer. your democrats are not really liberals in the eyes of europe they are still right wing, you guys really are just choosing on personalities. i think obama is a secret lefty, but is too scared to say so. sadly british politics has gone the same way after blair raped the labour party and destroyed socialism.
{The war in Iraq did topple an evil dictator and gave the people more freedom
what will have improved once the troops have gone?
have you guys in the u.s. paid attention to the arab spring? have you seen what happens when people want change rather than having it enforced by an invader?
By the way, I have never called the [b]greatest scientific minds of our time stupid[/b]
you have called the big bang theory stupid that would be calling the majority of the world top physicists stupid. you have done the same about evolution and geology.