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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The DNA molecule is not the actual code, but it stores coded information as the second video proves. The replication process is not random, but pre-programmed by the coded information that must be read and interpreted to produce the correct proteins in a specific order. You need to review these videos again so you can correct your errors in thinking about DNA.
    You need to read up on the internal workings of cells (from scientific papers) so
    you can correct your errors in thinking about DNA.
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    Originally posted by C Hess
    Your interpretation of scriptures is obviously flawed then.
    Then, show me.
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    17 Apr '14 21:07
    Originally posted by C Hess
    You need to read up on the internal workings of cells (from scientific papers) so
    you can correct your errors in thinking about DNA.
    Since normal DNA always contains coded information, most writers don't bother to explain the difference between the coded information and the DNA. They usually just write of it as a unit.
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    17 Apr '14 21:29
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Since normal DNA always contains coded information...
    What you fail to realise is that DNA is code for life in the same way that hydrogen is code for acid-base reactions.
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    17 Apr '14 22:524 edits
    Originally posted by C Hess
    What you fail to realise is that DNA is code for life in the same way that hydrogen is code for acid-base reactions.
    I hope this crash course will help you. In the first video the guy is obviously an evolutionist because he titles his presentation evolution and DNA, but even he states, "DNA is what stores our genetic instructions, the information that programs all our cells activities, the 6 billion letter code that provides the assembly instructions for everything that you are."

    DNA Structure and Replication

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    DNA - God's amazing programming; evidence for his existence

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    Information embedded in DNA Proves The Existence of God

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    Random chemical reactions are good at producing death.
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    TOP DNA SCIENTIST CONVINCED OF GOD

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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    TOP DNA SCIENTIST CONVINCED OF GOD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5bPbwkjKMM
    There is no such thing as the top DNA scientist.

    The overwhelming majority of geneticists do NOT believe in a god.

    He also rejects young earth creationism AND intelligent design, although
    he does apparently believe in some weird mishmash of evolution and religion
    where god directs evolution.


    However the main point is ... Who cares?

    In science you might have people pay more attention to you if you have credentials
    and qualifications [and well received published research] in a field... But that doesn't
    mean people just take your word for stuff.

    The argument he makes for god is deeply flawed and refuted.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060815_sam_harris_language_ignorance
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    18 Apr '14 01:271 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    There is no such thing as the top DNA scientist.

    The overwhelming majority of geneticists do NOT believe in a god.

    He also rejects young earth creationism AND intelligent design, although
    he does apparently believe in some weird mishmash of evolution and religion
    where god directs evolution.


    However the main point is ... Who cares?

    In s ...[text shortened]... lawed and refuted.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060815_sam_harris_language_ignorance
    I don't believe the title given to the video means that he was "THE" top DNA scientist, only "A" top DNA scientist. Also it is not presenting him as a theologian either, only as a new believer. The point is that a DNA scientist can believe in God too.
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    Evidence for creation ''Genetics Confirms the Bible''

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    Origins With Dr. Robert Carter ''Genetics Adam Our Ancestor '' Geneticist Dr. Robert Carter gives incredible DNA evidence that entire human population came from the 8 souls aboard Noah's Ark 4500 years and dispersed throughout the world via the Tower of Babel incident in Genesis 11. God's Word is confirmed once again by science!
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    18 Apr '14 07:081 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I hope this crash course will help you. In the first video the guy is obviously an evolutionist because he titles his presentation evolution and DNA, but even he states, "DNA is what stores our genetic instructions, the information that programs all our cells activities, the 6 billion letter code that provides the assembly instructions for everything that y ...[text shortened]... ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77xr-OgizBg

    Random chemical reactions are good at producing death.
    "...because of an elite team of microscopic assassins that live inside my body..."
    - crash course talking about the immune system

    You don't seriously think of white blood cells as little assassins attacking pathogens do
    you? Of course not, as grown-ups we understand that white blood cells are completely
    unaware of their surrounding, and that these are only metaphors meant to help children
    understand the effects of the immune system.

    In short, you can think of the DNA as a blueprint for life metaphorically, but if you honestly
    think that your god created the cell to function as a number-crunching computer system,
    you might want to ask for your receipt back.

    (Leave it to creationists to think of metaphors as literal truth.)
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    18 Apr '14 08:371 edit
    Originally posted by C Hess
    "...because of an elite team of microscopic assassins that live inside my body..."
    - crash course talking about the immune system

    You don't seriously think of white blood cells as little assassins attacking pathogens do
    you? Of course not, as grown-ups we understand that white blood cells are completely
    unaware of their surrounding, and that these are ...[text shortened]... your receipt back.

    (Leave it to creationists to think of metaphors as literal truth.)
    The use of metaphors to explain unfamiliar things by the familiar is a common teaching tool amoung good teachers and instructors. However, if you don't understand how computers work it doesn't do you much good. Sorry about that.
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    18 Apr '14 08:49
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    However, if you don't understand how computers work it doesn't do you much good.
    And when did you learn anything about computers? You've clearly shown that you don't understand much. I remember when you dismissed computer simulations about things.
    I hate to tell you that you don't know much of computers and their programming. Either. Sorry about that.
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    18 Apr '14 08:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The use of metaphors to explain unfamiliar things by the familiar is a common teaching tool amoung good teachers and instructors. However, if you don't understand how computers work it doesn't do you much good. Sorry about that.
    But I do understand how computers work. To compare the cell to a computer (literally)
    you'd have to imagine a system where all the parts are floating around in a bag filled with
    liquid; a liquid that provides energy to the parts. The hard drive compulsively spits out
    chunked copies of its data into this liquid, and every now and then a chunk merges with the
    processor resulting in output floating around until it successfully hits an output port. But it
    could also be broken down by the liquid, to be reused in the construction of new output.

    It's a good thing that's not how our computers work, isn't it?
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    18 Apr '14 09:171 edit
    Originally posted by C Hess
    But I do understand how computers work. To compare the cell to a computer (literally)
    you'd have to imagine a system where all the parts are floating around in a bag filled with
    liquid; a liquid that provides energy to the parts. The hard drive compulsively spits out
    chunked copies of its data into this liquid, and every now and then a chunk merges with ...[text shortened]... he construction of new output.

    It's a good thing that's not how our computers work, isn't it?
    The material is not the same, but the principle of operation is similiar. Obviously, the DNA computer is much more complex than the silicon one that I am presently using to communicate with you.

    Silicon vs. DNA Microprocessors

    Silicon microprocessors have been the heart of the computing world for more than 40 years. In that time, manufacturers have crammed more and more electronic devices onto their microprocessors. In accordance with Moore's Law, the number of electronic devices put on a microprocessor has doubled every 18 months. Moore's Law is named after Intel founder Gordon Moore, who predicted in 1965 that microprocessors would double in complexity every two years. Many have predicted that Moore's Law will soon reach its end, because of the physical speed and miniaturization limitations of silicon microprocessors.

    DNA computers have the potential to take computing to new levels, picking up where Moore's Law leaves off. There are several advantages to using DNA instead of silicon:
    •As long as there are cellular organisms, there will always be a supply of DNA.
    •The large supply of DNA makes it a cheap resource.
    •Unlike the toxic materials used to make traditional microprocessors, DNA biochips can be made cleanly.
    •DNA computers are many times smaller than today's computers.

    DNA's key advantage is that it will make computers smaller than any computer that has come before them, while at the same time holding more data. One pound of DNA has the capacity to store more information than all the electronic computers ever built;­ and the computing power of a teardrop-sized DNA computer, using the DNA logic gates, will be more powerful than the world's most powerful supercomputer. More than 10 trillion DNA molecules can fit into an area no larger than 1 cubic centimeter (0.06 cubic inches). With this small amount of DNA, a computer would be able to hold 10 terabytes of data, and perform 10 trillion calculations at a time. By adding more DNA, more calculations could be performed.

    Unlike conventional computers, DNA computers perform calculations parallel to other calculations. Conventional computers operate linearly, taking on tasks one at a time. It is parallel computing that allows DNA to solve complex mathematical problems in hours, whereas it might take electrical computers hundreds of years to complete them.

    The first DNA computers are unlikely to feature word processing, e-mailing and solitaire programs. Instead, their powerful computing power will be used by national governments for cracking secret codes, or by airlines wanting to map more efficient routes. Studying DNA computers may also lead us to a better understanding of a more complex computer -- the human brain.

    http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dna-computer2.htm
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    18 Apr '14 09:26
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The material is not the same, but the principle of operation is similiar. Obviously, the DNA computer is much more complex than the silicon one that I am presently using to communicate with you.
    How did you just not fathom the whole point of my post!? It's not the material
    difference I'm pointing out, it's the role of random chance in its inner workings. Clearly, as
    far as consistent and reliable number-crunching goes, the cell is sadly inferior to any
    human-built computer system.
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