1. Standard memberrvsakhadeo
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    19 Sep '11 12:52
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
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    For rvsakhadeo -

    A scientist or a group of scientists who,for the moment,have a working hypothesis which explains the phenomenon under examination very satisfactorily ( till some phenomenon comes up and upsets the hypotheses.)



    And how does that explicitly relate to atheists and not theists or deists?
    Yes,the story could apply equally to theists,atheists,deists et al.
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    19 Sep '11 12:55
    Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
    Yes,the story could apply equally to theists,atheists,deists et al.
    So who then is the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow?
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    19 Sep '11 12:58
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    So who then is the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow?
    And what is the obey-now-enjoy-immortality-later deal for atheists?

    I really don't think rvsakhadeo understands the allegory in the OP.
  4. Standard memberrvsakhadeo
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    19 Sep '11 13:11
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    So who then is the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow?
    Well I did reply to your post much earlier. It could be a scientist or a group of scientists who have a working hypothesis which very successfully explains a phenomenon( till such time as another contradictory phenomenon appears and the previous hypothesis tumbles down) Other scientists follow the leader into the abyss.
  5. Standard memberProper Knob
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    19 Sep '11 14:211 edit
    Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
    Well I did reply to your post much earlier. It could be a scientist or a group of scientists who have a working hypothesis which very successfully explains a phenomenon( till such time as another contradictory phenomenon appears and the previous hypothesis tumbles down) Other scientists follow the leader into the abyss.
    But you just said in a post above -

    Yes, the story could apply equally to theists,atheists,deists et al.


    So the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow, is also followed blindly by theists and deists et al. In short, EVERYONE is blindly following.
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    19 Sep '11 14:371 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    But you just said in a post above -

    Yes, the story could apply equally to theists,atheists,deists et al.


    So the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow, is also followed blindly by theists and deists et al. In short, [b]EVERYONE
    is blindly following.[/b]
    Let avalanchethecat settle that.I asked her as to who she thought were the sheep and who was the magician and what is the hypnosis.
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    19 Sep '11 14:40
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    But you just said in a post above -

    Yes, the story could apply equally to theists,atheists,deists et al.


    So the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow, is also followed blindly by theists and deists et al. In short, [b]EVERYONE
    is blindly following.[/b]
    Meanwhile I remembered a phrase used in the Upanishads,our holy books,in which the world is referred as " Blind led by Blind ".
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    19 Sep '11 14:43
    Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
    Let avalanchethecat settle that.I asked her as to who she thought were the sheep and who was the magician and what is the hypnosis.
    Why does avalanchethecat (he is a he) have to answer something you typed? This is what you wrote -

    Don't you think that atheists also behave like sheep e.g. following their set views blindly,like the sheep in a flock follow their leader?


    I was asking who is the leader the atheists blindly follow, as being an atheist myself i'm not aware of blindly following anyone.
  9. Standard memberrvsakhadeo
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    19 Sep '11 14:54
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    Why does avalanchethecat (he is a he) have to answer something you typed? This is what you wrote -

    Don't you think that atheists also behave like sheep e.g. following their set views blindly,like the sheep in a flock follow their leader?


    I was asking who is the leader the atheists blindly follow, as being an atheist myself i'm not aware of blindly following anyone.
    OK. Good for you that you are a free spirit.No offence meant to you as a person. But I do request you to please follow every post on the thread and the replies to them in the proper context.
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    19 Sep '11 15:001 edit
    Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
    OK. Good for you that you are a free spirit.No offence meant to you as a person. But I do request you to please follow every post on the thread and the replies to them in the proper context.
    But I do request you to please follow every post on the thread and the replies to them in the proper context.

    Is this a wind up?!

    I find you one of the most incoherent posters on this forum, and i get the impression i'm not the only one.
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    20 Sep '11 06:45
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Did you read the story?

    ...secondly he suggested that the magician was a good master who loved his flock so much that he was ready to do anything in the world for them...
    I don't think you read the story carefully because you must have missed
    this part:

    "this magician was very mean"
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    20 Sep '11 06:54
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    So who then is the leader of the flock that atheists blindly follow?
    Satan.
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    20 Sep '11 06:57
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Satan.
    He hasn't been in touch lately (nor Santa or the Tooth Fairy).
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    20 Sep '11 07:09
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    He hasn't been in touch lately (nor Santa or the Tooth Fairy).
    That is only what you think.
  15. Standard memberProper Knob
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    20 Sep '11 08:51
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Satan.
    Do you really believe that? Or is that an attempt at humour?
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