Sheep's Tale

Originally posted by RJHinds
How do you understand it then. Explain it to us, please.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
When you 'us' who else are you referring to?

Of course this sheep's tale is utterly irrelevant to the nonbeliever; seeing as how there IS no magician, good or bad. Right? So this pitiful allegorical warning to Christians that our God may actually champion evil is completely hollow coming from a nonbeliever.

Now then, if you actually do believe the biblical God exists, and still want to claim He is evil then you certainly have the right to do so. I don't find it particularly advisable, however.

Certainly if you believe this great evil magician exists and has managed to fool billions of Christians, then you must come to terms with the distinct possibility that you are the one who has been fooled.

as a side note I dont think there are any "good" or "bad" magicians. There are just magicians.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
as a side note I dont think there are any "good" or "bad" magicians. There are just magicians.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The magician in the tale is said to be mean.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Yes, I'm aware of this.

My comment stands,unchanged

Originally posted by RJHinds
Since the magician is said to be very mean, we know that he has malice in
mind, having evil intentions. This is shown also by the rest of the tale. So
as a shepherd he is definitely not a good shepherd, as Jesus, no matter what
kind of magician he might be. So if he is not a good shepherd, he must be
a bad shepherd because of his evil intentions toward the sheep.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Yes,yes,I get it.

Do you get me though? (it seems not)

you seem to show a belief in magicians (or at least the magician in this story), so do you think there are any good magicians? or are you like the JW's where they think "spiritualism" (whatever that means), is inherently bad?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Have you ever saw the "Unknown Magician" on TV. I think he is a good
magician because he reveals the secret of the magic trick.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
No I haven't seen that one.

do you believe in real magic (not just tricks)?

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, for then I would call it a miracle of God.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
So it's just a matter of liguistics then ,eh?
(Do you get my drift?)

Originally posted by RJHinds
Not really because a miracle is real. Magic is an illusion.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
An illusion is an illusion.Magic is magic. Now you call it a "miracle".

You sound liike you've been watching too much tv.